Lots of ARs, Mags, and Ammo at the gun show today.

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The "I know the prices will come back down" part is what I don't understand some of you guys promoting. Do none of you "get" the idea that these may be gone? Unavailable? Verbotten? The Administration is talking about moving on gun control measures before the end of this month. THIS month! Not 6 months from now. Not in a year. THIS MONTH.

On the issue of "companies will resupply us". What is most likely to happen in this regard is that manufacturers will invest a ton of time and effort into retooling their machines to produce something that is high priced right now. Like magazines. If they make multiple types of magazines (some for AR, some for SKS, some for AK-47, some for Glock etc etc) then they have to decide which magazines to focus on building that will get them the most "bang" for their efforts. Maximizing profit is the name of the game. Maybe they'll decide to produce multiple mags...which means no SINGLE mag type gets preference. Perhaps they COULD produce 200,000 mags if they worked at full production on that one mag type...but will they? My bet is "no". They'll want to keep from putting all their eggs in one basket so they'll produce a run of AK mags, a run of SKS mags, a run of AR mags etc. They'll send out inventory as it is "run" off the assembly line, worked, painted, packaged, processed for delivery, arranged for a deliverer, and then finally shipped. Where their pitiful small outputs will fall like a speck of water onto the tongue of an airplane survivor walking across the Sahara desert. Their production will IN NO WAY meet the current demand--a demand that is likely to continue as long as conversation about a ban continues.

Worse for these companies would be a second approach, where they may be stocking up a few thousand of these magazines in order to be able to send them out to multiple suppliers at the same time. Otherwise how do you pick and choose which of your loyal customers gets served first...and who gets screwed? "Cabelas should get it first, they are the biggest!" "No, Midway should get it, they are our oldest customer!" So they'll sit on their output, send out a bit but also hold some back, let the prices and panic build a little bit, raise their prices 10% and then start shipping. And just as the doors open to deliver their mags to market.....the announcement comes over the news saying that a ban has passed with any and all manufacturers limited to producing only 10 round magazines--the ban including distribution of any existing stocks. Boom. Now they are stuck in the middle of a run, or holding on to stock to let the panic build, or just can't crank them out fast enough to get their products to the people who want them. Net result--some guys don't get things that they are use to going down to the corner store and getting for cheap.

If the Admin moves quickly and at a minimum gets a magazine ban passed THIS MONTH, which I'll admit, I'm concerned will not be universally opposed by the current crop of Republican Representatives and Senate members and their current inter-party dissatisfaction. A ban in my opinion stands a much better chance of passing than in previous years. So the very companies you are relying on to restock their supplies may very well be barred from doing so within the next two weeks.

Someone also said they wouldn't pay a high price for a polymer mag. The same economics that govern oil and gasoline also works here. When there is a lot of something, it's cheap. When there is much less being produced, prices rise. When it becomes the last 20,000 barrels of oil on the planet--then people will give truckloads of diamonds and gold for it. Suppose it were the last mag on Earth? Suppose it was the last 20 bullets and you had to cross Africa on foot? Suppose it were the last bottle of water after the hurricane on the shelf, and you're thirsty? Or it is gasoline for your car? I remember gas when it was $1 a gallon. Have you stopped buying it now that it has risen FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT in cost? No? I didn't think so.

Now suppose that this isn't supposition. Suppose that they really ARE out to close down the production of magazines, of rifles and track them from the cradle to the grave without allowing transfers between owners. Is it worth paying a little bit more to have that last bit of water, those last bullets, that last gallon of gas? It's only your life at stake, so don't take time to think about it. Just ignore the issue and "hrrrumph" and deny. I'm sure the problem will go away.

If some of you can't see that, if you refuse to accept it, if you can not adapt, then I think you are going to be VERY psychologically unprepared when the reality hits.
 
Today in Jacksonville, NC the show prices for BASE low end AR's was around $2,000! And they had sold some! Ammo on .223/5.56, .308/7.62, and a few other was out or outrageous. Anything AR or semiauto related was stupidity priced (for stupid buyers).

Luckily my beloved .257 Roberts was still around $30 for 117gr +P loads. Something for me to shoot off for the brass. I will need it for my own AR project in .257AI!
 
Good friend who collects had a table this weekend to clear out some of his extras.

He was positively GIDDY with how much stupid people were paying for things.

Wish we had more time to chat but every time he had a pause, another customer came rolling up to look at parts or oogle his cutaway M1 setup. One of his other friends had just sold him an AR for a mere $700.

This is truly the secondary panic flood, all those fence-sitters who finally see the possibility of losing their rights, buying anything and everything they could.
 
How many of the fellows in that picture I posted from the Lexington gunshow look like they just turned 18? There are WAY too many extra people in that photo to account for only the groups you mention. I don't begrudge these folks access to a gun, but I do look down on the ones who are only now having a "political awakening".

If these people had been with us all along the restrictive legislation they are now scurrying to get ahead of wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.
Not sure what picture you mean, but no single picture -- or for that matter gun show -- can be assumed representative.

The groups I mentioned aren't meant to cover the entire spectrum of current new buyers, just some worth holding in different consideration than the "grasshoppers".

And I don't think we should "look down" on people who came to a position we share by different means or at different times -- it's a big world, there are many legitimate ways up the mountain, and better that they're here now than not at all.
 
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