Lou Dobbs segment on gun control

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Wow CNN just had an awesome segment on gun control and the Virginia shooting it basically stated everything that is said on these boards. Excellent :D We are headed on the right direction. Democrats are aware if they mess with our gun rights they lose thier seat.
 
Lou Dobbs is great. He's single handedly done more than any other news personality to keep the immigration debate alive. He hasn't always been 100% behind RKBA issues, but he's a good ally to have now.
 
I'm wary of most reporters, but Dobbs has been making sense lately.

I'm still waiting for him to decide the AWB was a bad idea though. In an interview with (iirc) Wayne LaPierre before the sunset, he talked about how unsporting it was to hunt with a semi-auto and that when he used to hunt, he'd hunt geese with a single shot .22.
 
The following is an excerpt taken from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/18/ldt.01.html

DOBBS: As we learn more about all of these victims, the loss becomes even greater. And Kitty, thank you very much. Kitty Pilgrim.

The shootings at Virginia Tech have raised the politically charged issue, of course, of gun control. Virginia's governor, Tim Kaine, today said now is not the time to discuss his state's gun laws.

And as Dana Bash now reports, congressional Democrats are also trying to keep quiet about gun control.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DANA BASH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In the days after the 1999 Columbine High School shootings, Democrats were quick to demand tougher gun laws.

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: How many of our schools have to be desecrated by blood and bullets before the Senate and the House will act?

BASH: Congress did debate gun control then but failed to enact new laws.

Now another massacre. This time Democrats control Congress, but they're shying away from talk of gun control.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV), MAJORITY LEADER: I hope there's not a rush to do anything. We need to take a deep breath.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Console the families and the children who were affected there. That's what we're focusing on. That's all we're focusing on right now.

BASH: Democrats are reluctant to pass new gun restrictions, in part because public support for tightening gun laws has been steadily dropping. In 1990, 78 percent of Americans backed stricter gun laws. Now it's only 49 percent.

AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Common sense, gun safety measures...

BASH: Democrats dropped gun control as a national issue after Al Gore was tagged as anti-gun in 2000, and lost big in the south and rural areas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a very strong Second Amendment guy.

BASH: Since then, Democrats won seats from North Carolina to Indiana, pro-gun candidates.

STU ROTHENBERG, ROTHENBERG POLITICAL REPORT: So the Democratic Party has really tried to move to the center on some issues, and certainly with a lot of rhetoric. And picking up the gun issue again, I think many Democrats feel would push them further back to the left. They don't want to go there now.

BASH: Democrat Carolyn McCarthy ran for Congress after her husband was killed in 1993 by a Long Island railroad gunman.

CAROLYN MCCARTHY (D), NEW YORK: So this isn't just policy. This is personal for me.

BASH: She hopes this week's shootings will help her renew restrictions on weapons, limit clips to ten bullets in 9 millimeter guns like the one used in Virginia. But McCarthy says even that will be tough.

MCCARTHY: I have members that come up to me and say, Carolyn, I'd like to be with you, but I can't. I didn't come here to Congress to fight gun violence. I'll lose my reelection. You know what? They probably would.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BASH: And hearings have already been scheduled on the issue of college campus safety. But several Democratic leadership sources tell CNN the chances of Congress actively pursuing new gun restrictions are slim to none -- Lou.

DOBBS: Dana, thank you very much.

Presidential candidates today not offering any further direction on their position on gun control. Substantiating the position taken there on Capitol Hill, as well. Thank you very much.

As public support for tighter gun control declines, studies show that there is no evidence that tighter gun control laws reduce gun deaths.

As Christine Romans reports now, the Second Amendment still stands.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The law of the land, these 27 words: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

But for years, gun control advocates and lawmakers have sought to restrict the Second Amendment, with gun-free zones, waiting periods, firearm registration and licensing, with the view that limiting access to guns would decrease crime.

JACOB SULLUM, "REASON" MAGAZINE: It's never been demonstrated in any conclusive way that gun control reduces crime. The rules disarm the law abiding people, but they leave the criminals free to attack their victims, who have no defense.

ROMANS: In fact, crime has been declining across the country, irrespective of the state gun laws, whether lenient or tough.

The CDC several years ago concluded there is no proof that gun laws reduce firearm violence. In fact, some of the most violent places have the toughest gun laws. Think Washington, D.C., and its 30-year ban on handguns.

The most restrictive gun laws in North America are in Mexico, where citizens are unarmed. Killer drug cartels are armed.

The Virginia Tech campus is a gun-free zone. That did not stop Cho Seung-Hui. But his actions inevitably are reviving the gun control debate.

A Virginia congressman.

REP. JIM MORAN (D), VIRGINIA: It is simply too easy to obtain a firearm.

ROMANS: New York's mayor.

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: All mayors understand that taking illegal guns off the streets has nothing to do with the Second Amendment and everything to do with law enforcement.

ROMANS: Intense debate over the modern meaning of a 216-year-old right.

NICHOLAS JOHNSON, FORDHAM LAW SCHOOL: There is a split among the courts. There's a split among academics. But among American people, the majority of Americans believe that they have a right to arms.

ROMANS: An estimated 70 million Americans are gun owners.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ROMANS: The courts most recently weighed in on gun control laws in Washington, D.C., just last month, striking down that city's 30- year-old handgun ban, ruling it unconstitutional -- unconstitutional, insisting that it is -- there is nothing ambiguous, Lou, about the Second Amendment.

DOBBS: And that is precisely the holding of the appellate courts.

It is a very difficult issue. And the reflex is understandable, the intensifying debate understandable. But at the same time, the failure to look at the broader violence on our college campuses, 1,100 suicides a year, 1,400 deaths from binge drinking, 70,000 rapes and sexual assaults, where is the clarion cry there? Because there is a broad scope of violence that is being altogether ignored.

Christine, thank you very much. Christine Romans.

A bill, by the way, in the Virginia legislature that would have given college students and university employees the right to carry handguns on campus never made it out of committee.

On Monday, the day of the shootings, House Bill 1572 was dropped during the first stage of the legislative review process in the Virginia House.

Most universities in Virginia prohibit anyone other than police from possessing a firearm on campus.
 
My problem with Lou Dobbs is that he is a protectionist! That is much worse for our country than a gun-grabber; I can't believe I just said that.
 
My problem with Lou Dobbs is that he is a protectionist! That is much worse for our country than a gun-grabber; I can't believe I just said that.

They run neck and neck. One keeps you poorer than you would be and the other leaves you defensless.

They could both lead to a shorter nastier lifespan than you might normally enjoy.
 
i'm amazed they can show such stuff on tv. was there a warning in the corner to say the content was for adults only? how can they say for sure that the guns themselves dont actually do the killing?
 
Go, go ,go

Lou Dobbs, has been the only one besides the talk radio guys that has brought out these truths that effect our lives, he has a very large following.
 
I am always amazed that there is NEVER EVER a discussion about the completely rotten state of our society. The "Liberals" added to this situation VERY significantly with their "everything goes", no responsibility and no consequences state of mind.

"Are our lives so small and so worthless even to ourselves that we have decided we are not worth defending; that we can just "outsource" our protection to a university or a police department or a government?"

Michael Bane, The Shooting Wire 4-18-07

As William Shakespeare said already 400 years ago: "There is something rotten in the state of Denmark" (Hamlet). :cuss:
 
My problem with Lou Dobbs is that he is a protectionist! That is much worse for our country than a gun-grabber; I can't believe I just said that.

I take issue with that, but that's for another thread isn't it . :scrutiny:
 
From the transcript:
The most restrictive gun laws in North America are in Mexico, where citizens are unarmed. Killer drug cartels are armed.

Mexico's laws are very restrictive, and the cartels are certainly armed, but it isn't accurate to state that citizens are unarmed by law. Its hard to get a gun, and they don't allow citizens to own military calibers, but you can get one if you can afford it. Also, somehow or other, my wife's uncle and cousin both own .45s. I went with them to the shooting range on the base housing the Mexican Presidential Guard (a ceremonial unit) and shot a match with a 3-star Mexican General. *

* BTW - I shot far better than he did, and he asked my wife's cousin if I was in the FBI (I'm not). I took that as a great complement (and I hope he took it as just another reason to not invade Texas again). :p
 
look at the broader violence on our college campuses, 1,100 suicides a year, 1,400 deaths from binge drinking, 70,000 rapes and sexual assaults,

That's unbelievable and really puts things in perspective.
 
That transcript was simply excellent. Thanks much for posting.

I do believe that the tide is beginning to turn, people. Feelings of freedom are welling up inside me, even as I sit in dreaded Chicago as I write this. They are welling up in others too. That is crystal clear.

This is all just very invigorating. It was the gun-banners who, without discretion or respect, began this dialogue immediately after the horrible criminal act on VT campus. So, in response, we are galvanized, we know our facts (unlike Helmke and McCarthy, for examples), and we are correct. Look at the internet polls...I've seen close to a dozen, now. And the pro-gun votes outweighed the anti votes usually by a 2-1 or even 3-1 margin.

People....make the calls. Write the letters. Be active on news websites and gun boards like The High Road. Join the NRA. Sign up your friends....offer to pay all, or even half, of their first-time membership fee. Join the ISRA (we need you in Illinois!!). Get active NOW.

Together, we shall overcome. Freedom isn't free....it never was, and it never will be. But Freedom is in the air. Breathe it in, people, and let it awaken you.
 
I admit that I didn't read to the end of the thread after reading that Lou Dobbs said he hunted geese with a .22. So maybe someone else has mentioned that this is a Federal Migratory Bird offense. I KNOW because I was once ticketed for it. At the time, about 20 years ago, the max penalty was a year and $10,000.00 fine. I made nice to the game warden (thanks, Kenny), went to court and made nice, and paid $100.00 fine. Seems like an awfully harsh penalty for popping a goose, in season.
 
Interesting. I've been surprised that the known rabidly anti-gun democratic leaders haven't jumped (yet!) at the opportunity to go anti-gun.

I wonder if the New Orleans Mayor's attempt to confiscate guns truly needed for defense by legal owners during Katrina...and the general sense of outrage and state laws banning such action that erupted across the nation...was a blessing in disguise? Perhaps an eye-opener to anti-gunners who had never considered the very real importance of guns for personal defense when the police are absent...
 
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