Lubing rifle case's

[RugerBob]

I had a stuck shell when doing some 30-06. had to drill and tap etc.
Seems to me that maybe the lube needs to also be inside the case.

Whats the norm on rifle case's and lube, inside or outside case or both?

I am going to be using Hornaday One Shot as its what I have on hand.

I've not had much experience with rifle case's. Most my reloading has been straight walled case's.

Thanks, Bob

 

[jwrowland77]

I've noticed that as long as I follow the instructions perfectly on the can of One Shot, I never get a stuck case. Make sure you follow them exactly and you shouldn't have any issues.

 

[Walkalong]

You need lube on the body well, you need a little on the neck, you don't need any on the shoulder, but most methods of application get a little there. A little won't hurt.

The inside of the necks need a hair of lube. You can roll a neck brush on the lube pad and run it in the neck. You can dip the neck in graphite or moly. You can, when available, use carbide neck expander buttons. You can wipe lube on a neck brush with your fingers. etc, etc.

 

[Walkalong]

I've noticed that as long as I follow the instructions perfectly on the can of One Shot, I never get a stuck case. Make sure you follow them exactly and you shouldn't have any issues.

I have not used any One Shot, but after reading folks trials and tribulations with it here, it seems this advise is key.

 

[nettlle]

Putting a little lube inside the case mouth with a cotton swab every now and then goes a long way.

 

[Potatohead]

Keep in mind that some people call One Shot "One Stuck"..( although this could be the people that arent following the directions to a tee). I use the Lee stuff mixed with water and have never had trouble. I lightly blot the case mouths with a paper towel with lube on it.

 

[Potatohead]

I have not used any One Shot, but after reading folks trials and tribulations with it here, it seems this advise is key.

Agree. And I was trying to softly mention that people have had trouble with it. I love it for pistol though.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Every thread about a stuck case either starts with "One Shot" or has One Shot in the first sentence. Yes it will work if you do everything perfectly but we are human and we make mistakes.

I now use nothing but Imperial Sizing Wax and I'm sure I will never stick a case again. A 2oz tin will last what seems forever since you use very little. Every 4th or 5th case I run my thumb over the case mouth to add a little lube to the inside of the case neck.
http://redding-reloading.com/online-catalog/79-imperial-lubricants
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/519525/imperial-case-sizing-wax-2-oz

I do use One Shot on small handgun cases like the 9mm. Even though it's not needed when using a Carbide Sizing Die it does smooth things up a lot.

 

[jwrowland77]

Been using One Shot for three years. About all I load is rifle, not a stuck one yet. I just follow the instructions exactly

 

[sgtwest]

lubing rifle cases

According to the Lee's modern reloading manual it states to lube inside the case neck with a swab.
This should help. happy shooting

 

[witchhunter]

Every thread about a stuck case has "one shot" in it. Either that or users defend one shot as the best. I have never used it, I use an old RCBS lube pad and have for nearly 50 years, I have one suck case on my resume. When I ran out of RCBS lube and used something else. Sounds like you must follow the directions exactly to keep from sticking one. I like Imperial wax too though.

 

[moxie]

One Shot Works For Me

I use it with .223/5.56 brass.

First, squirt some up into the sizing die.

I take 50 rounds and put them in a Rubbermaid 5 cup container. Anything similar will do.

Spray thoroughly. Shake. Repeat a few times. Apparently enough gets in the necks during the process that there's nary a problem. Easier, I think, than the loading block method in the instructions.

Wipe off any excess with a rag after sizing. You really don't need to but I do a real good eyeball inspection at the same time.

One can lasts for thousands of rounds. No mess. Decent smell.

 

[rcmodel]

Failure to lube inside the neck simply cannot result in a stuck case.

The critical part is the thicker brass back by the head and body taper.

Try spraying the cases as outlined above.

Then wait for all the solvent to evaporate off.

Now, as you pick up each case to size it, twist in in your fingers to spread a thin film of lube all around the case.

You only want a thin film covering the outside of the case, and all you can't wipe off with lube on your fingers is just right.

Too much and you will get oil dents in the shoulders.

Too little and you will get a stuck case.

rc

 

[nettlle]

Lubing inside the case mouth can greatly reduce the effort required when sizing bottle necked brass. It's an easy experiment to try.

 

[RugerBob]

Thanks for the advise all. Will grab some q tips and swab case mouth.

 

[Slamfire]

For my 308 caliber cases I lube the inside of the case necks using a stainless tornado brush. I think it is a 35 caliber brush. I have used nylon brushes, lubed them up RCBS water soluble case lube, but the nylon brushes did not last as long as the tornado brush.

I tumble cases in a thumler's tumbler barrel with a wet patch. The patch has RCBS case lube.

I small base size every caliber I can get small base dies. I quickly found the spray on or wax lubes will stick a case in the die. The only other lube I consistently use is Imperial Sizing wax. Mink Oil works well, but does not wash off in the sink.

 

[Grimshaw]

Even some carbide dies need lube, so the extra money spent on carbide dies can be a waste and defeat the purpose of carbide dies.

 

[rsnell]

I have been using an ink pad (old style with a cloth pad), STP, and Motor Mica. Rub the STP into the ink pad, roll the cases across the pad one time, dip the neck into Motor Mica, and size the case. I have been using this procedure on all commercial cases of known origin for 40+ years without sticking a case. No lubricant will get on the case necks. I have not tried this with brass that may have been fired in a machine gun. When I know I may have a problem, I use Imperial Sizing Die Wax e.g. a Willis collet die.

The main problem with this procedure is finding a suitable stamp pad. Lyman appears to sell a pad that will work.

Bob

 

[OYE]

Even some carbide dies need lube, so the extra money spent on carbide dies can be a waste and defeat the purpose of carbide dies.

What brands of carbide dies have you found to need lube? Would appreciate
the info (as I'm sure all the new reloaders will) so we all don't waste money on a set of dies that don't work. Thanks in advance. OYE

 

[gamestalker]

I always apply a very light amount of lube to the inside of the neck, it makes things go a little smoother, which also helps to not pull the shoulders up when extracting the brass from the die do to excessive resistance/drag.

I use a spray on also, not One Shot though, but Dillon Case lube. The trick to using these type lubes is to make absolutely sure the lube dries completely before running it through the resizing die. If it isn't dry, you will indeed stick a case. I had a couple very close calls when I first started using it because it wasn't dry.

Something I learned, don't turn the brass upside down in the loading tray to dry, as that prevents the inside and outside of the neck, and that part of the body from drying.

BTW, don't apply the lube to the inside of the die, this creates the same effect as not letting the lube dry.

GS

 

[JamieC]

I stand a bunch of cases up in an old ammo tray, give 'em a spray or two, trying to get a little in the neck, mix those in with the main body of cases to be done. No more stuck cases. Lee and alcohol.

 

[alientrainwreck]

I just lay my casings on a paper towel with the mouth of the casing facing me I give the cases a once over spray, a little gets inside the neck and Everything always works fine.

 

[USSR]

Keep in mind that some people call One Shot "One Stuck"..( although this could be the people that arent following the directions to a tee).

I am the person who gave it the name "One Stuck", and yes, I am perfectly capable of reading and following instructions. To those who say they have never had a stuck case with it, I will only add "Yet". The simple fact is, the product is not up to the task of providing sufficient lubricity for large bottleneck rifle cases. However, it works just fine with straight wall handgun cases when using carbide dies. I now make my own lube that is 100 times better, lasts darn near forever, and costs a whole lot less. I resize 10's of thousands of cases each year on a commercial basis, so I need something that works without any caveats, and One Stuck is simply not up to the task. Just MHO.

Don

 

[kutter]

I do what JamieC does for my .308. I put all the cases in a block and spray down at a 45 degree angle while turning the block. I let them sit for 10 minutes or so and then run them through my press. I have never had an issue. For .223 I just put a buttload into a tupperware container and spray and shake like mad, seems to work fine on .223 and 357 Sig and I use OneShot.

 

[Grimshaw]

With any bottle necked case you should always use lube