fiddleharp
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Met up with this sow in the Myakka State Forest muzzleloader season last month. Thirty yard, head-on shot with a .50 cal PRB and 70gr of real black powder.
Lyman Deerstalker Florida Hog
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fiddleharp
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By the way, I forgot to mention that I wasn't hunting from a tree stand, or over bait. Just slipping along slowly and quietly and keeping a sharp lookout. The rifle wasn't resting on anything when I fired. Just offhand. Those Lyman peep sights are great!
Panzerschwein
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Very cool! I like the blood coming out of its nose.
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Great shot, good eating. Beautiful wood on that smoke pole by the way.
Crawdad1
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A thirty yard head shot, holy smokes great shot!!!! I agree beautiful stick of wood on that Lyman.
Patocazador
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I totally agree.
Too bad her litter dragged her down. Most of the sows I kill look like that one or skinnier. I shot an unbred gilt a couple of years ago that was loaded with fat. All the rest were better for shoe leather.
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Gordon
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I too shoot a .50 Lyman Deer Stalker , I use the open sights. Longest kill was 70 yards from a stand on deer. Hogs are usually 100-150 feet when I come on them along trails . My batting average thjere is about 50%. Enjoy your bacon.
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Nice shooting! cool rifle.
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fiddleharp
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Thanks for the congrats, everybody!
By the way, the "beautiful" wood on my rifle in the photo is some sort of optical illusion created by the early morning sun shining through tall grass. Actually, this wood is pretty plain and dark.
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Then congrats on your photography skills also,lol.
Gordon
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I carry a Lyman .50 Plains Pistol with it's belt hook on my belt when ML hunting with the .50 Deer Stalker. When you shoot something like a hog the loaded .50 pistol is a fine thing to have if you have to finish it. I too use 70 grains of FFF but I use Oxyoke overpowder Wonder wads under the patched .490 ball. In the Pistol I use 55 grains of FFF same wads ect.
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fiddleharp
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This is the first animal I've ever shot at with a muzzleloader. Seeing how these hogs can be dangerous when provoked, I was rather worried until the smoke finally cleared and I could see she was down. That was the longest thirty seconds of my life! The backup pistol sounds like a good idea. I can see why people get addicted to this sport! Much more satisfying than making a kill with a modern, scope-sighted rifle.
Crawdad1
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You need a Colt Pocket Police!!! Easy to carry with a 36 caliber sting to it.
Just a suggestion.
Just a suggestion.
You need a Colt Pocket Police!!! Easy to carry with a 36 caliber sting to it.
Just a suggestion.
A fellow with one who uses a max charge of 3F Olde Eynsford with his custom short for caliber 100 grn bullet barely creates .380 ACP performance. Not what I'd want to be armed with were it to get back up with me standing over it. With anything dangerous I'd much prefer a full sized something starting with no less than a .4
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whughett
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As in 44 Magnum. Pigs cant climb trees but then neither can I.
Crawdad1
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There is a group that hunts pigs with their Walkers or maybe its with Remingtons. I'm not sure.
whughett
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Hunted deer in Maine for many years, the fall bear season ran concurrent with the deer season and ones deer tag included black bear. In those 25 years I never saw a bear in the woods, occasional sign, a few in the check in stations but none in the woods., still, setting on a ground stand with full daylight still an hour away ones mind could get active and ones ears started to listen for that soft rustle of a blackie sneaking up. A scoped high power rifle was useless so it lay across the lap and the Model 29 was in hand. LOL. Never fired that pistol in the woods and in a few years, as I got older and we moved into tree stands I got tired of packing the weight so left it in camp. No feral pigs in Maine in those years that I knew of, maybe none even today, I don't know. However plenty of pigs, maybe even a bear or two in Charlotte/Lee county Florida these days just alas, my hunting days are over.
One fellow that I know of uses a Walker loaded with 66 grns of 2F T7 and a ball while the others use a Remington NMA, Colt Army, or ROA typically with 30+ grns of energetic 3F and a Kaido bullet (modified Lee bullet).
An adult hog had a Kaido bullet go nose to tail through it dropping it right there. No magnum necessary.
Gordon
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I just don't want to be standing fidling with hurried reloading after the first shot. Yes take time to plant the first one right, then set down the rifle and pull the Lyman Plains pistol. When we hunt ML around here, and other states I know of too, you are not allowed to have cartridge guns . The .50 lymans are sweet IMHO and a step up terminally from any .44 revolver.
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Kind of off the subject but what do you guys get from a feral hog like this? Some bacon and a lot of sausage? Are the loins or chops any good or are they tough? I know that the meat from a large boar would be mostly worthless from my days of hog raising while growing up in Iowa. The feral hogs haven't made it to northern Colorado yet but my grandson has offered to take me hog hunting in the Texas Panhandle. I think if I used one of my black powder rifles I would definitely carry one of my .357 revolvers as a backup.
I'd venture to guess that a WFN bullet pushed by a reasonable amount of energetic powder may actually outdo a patched .490 ball. The design of the projectile is quite telling and Keith most certainly wouldn't have spent so much time working over a sphere if it was optimal, especially when the velocity dropped to where we are speaking about. No, a sphere is not optimal. It's not much different than an elongated RN, though it won't penetrate as well lacking mass. Of course the projectile in question is important...
What little bit of ballistics gel evidence there is for BP arms shows a ball produces what a FMJ does. A small for caliber hole, unlike a WFN/Keith style bullet.
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Crawdad1
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Using any breechloader ruins it. Its got to be black powder. A hard punching single shot or 5 or 6 shots out of a revolver, that's the question.
whughett
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So two shots, you guys got big brass ones, I don't hunt hogs or any thing else but in my part of Florida hogs run in herds, or packs or what ever else one wants to call it. I like the idea of helicopters.
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