M&p pro 9mm

[jackpinesavages]

Have one, love it, shoot my Glocks more, but kept the Pro 9.

 

[ShawnC]

I own two M&P 9mm FS models, and one Pro.

Pros - very reliable (under 1 stoppage in 2k rounds average,) excellent ergonomics, good triggers out of the box, good factory and aftermarket support.

Cons - accuracy is inadequate for a defensive or competition pistol. My minimum accuracy requirement for a defensive pistol is 2.5" at 25 yards from a solid rest. My M&Ps will do around 5-6".

If 5-6" at 25 yards is good enough for you, then I can't recommend the M&P highly enough. I'm hanging on to mine, at least until the Apex/Bar-Sto barrel comes out.

-C

This isn't an attack, I am asking this respectfully. Why 2.5" at 25 yards for defensive purposes, when most uses defensively will be at closer than 10 feet? Not ragging on you or trying to tear you down, and there is nothing wrong with wanting that kind of accuracy, it just seems over much for defensive purposes.
I'm not looking to start an argument on this thread, so if it is too much off topic feel free to remove my comment.

 

[9mmepiphany]

This isn't an attack, I am asking this respectfully. Why 2.5" at 25 yards for defensive purposes, when most uses defensively will be at closer than 10 feet? Not ragging on you or trying to tear you down, and there is nothing wrong with wanting that kind of accuracy, it just seems over much for defensive purposes.
I'm not looking to start an argument on this thread, so if it is too much off topic feel free to remove my comment.

This is a valid question as many people really don't understand what is acceptable accuracy in a defensive handgun. Chris is actually being very generous.

The old Jeff Cooper minimum standard for a combat accurate handgun was 4" at 50 yards, which, as a rule of thumb, would be 2" at 25 yards...this is the minimum acceptable accuracy. 50 yards is the proscribe distance as it is easier to detect flaws in accuracy as distance increases...measuring accuracy at less than 25 yards was considered pretty useless.

I've seen several well built guns that will hold inside 1" at 50 yards and Les Baer will warranty his guns (on special order) at <1.5" at that distance.

Two things to remember are that
1. If a gun is shooting 5-6" from a rest, you would add that to the size of the group you are able to hold when shooting free hand
2. The rule of thumb is that whatever you can shoot in practice will deteriorate by a factor of two when shooting under stress