I got curious about this, after reading those threads on the carbine, and seeing that a .45ACP fits loosely(VERY loosely) in the magazine. It's much too short, but I was looking at the fact that it fit at all. Got me wondering, so I pulled out the gun, made some measurements, and did a little bit of thinking.
This isn't something like that 5.7mm cartridge, which is necking the .30 carbine brass down, this is putting a larger caliber in the gun. I'm kind of curious about whether anyone's tried it, but I thought I'd throw what I'd come up with out there too.
I was first looking at the magazine size, but that's irrelevant, the important dimension is how big of a cartridge you can make a chamber for. The barrel threads into the receiver, and that hole is about .637". Not sure how much leeway you'd actually have there, since part of the chamber is here, and it has to be thick enough to hold the barrel and receiver together.
My initial thought was to turn the tapered .30 cartridge to a straight walled one, but Measuring a few cases waiting to be loaded tells me they're about .012-.014 at the mouth, and I'm not sure that would support being stretched. This would only give you about .320, and I'm not sure that would give enough extra weight to be worth it.
Looking back at the .45, The base(not the rim) is .480 according to Lymans, which would give the part of the breech in that threaded part of the receiver a thickness of .178. Not sure if that would be enough, but that would allow you to build a .450 caliber cartridge and gun. Regardless, anything larger than the .30 looks like it would need a rebated rim, since there's not much room to enlarge the bolt face. Now, this would be a pretty low pressure round, since I can't go over the limits of the short-stroke piston, but I think it would still be pretty respectable.
Anyone want to chime in on how crazy I am?
This isn't something like that 5.7mm cartridge, which is necking the .30 carbine brass down, this is putting a larger caliber in the gun. I'm kind of curious about whether anyone's tried it, but I thought I'd throw what I'd come up with out there too.
I was first looking at the magazine size, but that's irrelevant, the important dimension is how big of a cartridge you can make a chamber for. The barrel threads into the receiver, and that hole is about .637". Not sure how much leeway you'd actually have there, since part of the chamber is here, and it has to be thick enough to hold the barrel and receiver together.
My initial thought was to turn the tapered .30 cartridge to a straight walled one, but Measuring a few cases waiting to be loaded tells me they're about .012-.014 at the mouth, and I'm not sure that would support being stretched. This would only give you about .320, and I'm not sure that would give enough extra weight to be worth it.
Looking back at the .45, The base(not the rim) is .480 according to Lymans, which would give the part of the breech in that threaded part of the receiver a thickness of .178. Not sure if that would be enough, but that would allow you to build a .450 caliber cartridge and gun. Regardless, anything larger than the .30 looks like it would need a rebated rim, since there's not much room to enlarge the bolt face. Now, this would be a pretty low pressure round, since I can't go over the limits of the short-stroke piston, but I think it would still be pretty respectable.
Anyone want to chime in on how crazy I am?