M1 Garand .30-06 v. Springfield M1a .308

[d2wing]

As for deer rifles, either are better than any other battle rifles are far as range due to accuracy and power. The .308 M14 copy would be handier due to less length and weight. Since either one can hit man size targets at 600 meters with open sights you are good.

 

[1KPerDay]

Pictures of the various holds are at this URL.

http://www.ocabj.net/?p=760

thank you.

 

[DammitBoy]

Every gun collector should have one of each.

 

[FlyinBryan]

Patton never knew the AK-47......

actually heard a story about Mikhail Kalashnikov himself leading a group of visitors through a firearms museum. as they walked along the glass cases, behind the red velvet ropes, he showed and discussed the various stages of conception, the prototypes, the maturing evolution of what became the great kalashnikov rifle, from its meager and rough beginnings to what we all know today as the ak47.

then they came to a single small glass case with a single m1 garand, the only one in the museum, and he said to the group of onlookers:

"and this is what it looks like when you get it right the first time"

 

[d2wing]

Amen to that Fl'n. American military cares about soldiers going home to mama and voting.

 

[saturno_v]

actually heard a story about Mikhail Kalashnikov himself leading a group of visitors through a firearms museum. as they walked along the glass cases, behind the red velvet ropes, he showed and discussed the various stages of conception, the prototypes, the maturing evolution of what became the great kalashnikov rifle, from its meager and rough beginnings to what we all know today as the ak47.

then they came to a single small glass case with a single m1 garand, the only one in the museum, and he said to the group of onlookers:

"and this is what it looks like when you get it right the first time"

The Garand was just an intermediate evolutionery step between a bolt action battle rifle and the modern military autloading rifles (battle or assault)

It is glorified just because America happened to win WWII when it was the service rifle.

An important military firearm but not that particularly revolutionary.

A great advantage compared to your average bolt action of the time but the autoloaders that came after it do run circle around it....

I'm probably the only forum member on this site that actually had a Garand as its service rifle issue so I know what it means to lug one around for miles compared to just keep it in the safe and fire few shots at the range.....we did hate it and we tried to grab the BM-59 or better, the AR70, whenever we could....

Assuming that story is true, it can be probably attributed to Mr. Kalashnikov humble nature.

 

[FlyinBryan]

Assuming that story is true, it can be probably attributed to Mr. Kalashnikov humble nature.

see my sig.

 

[FlyinBryan]

An important military firearm but not that particularly revolutionary.

i would definitely call it revolutionary.

a semi auto standard issue service rifle, the first in the history of the world, millions strong?

 

[d2wing]

Hmm Garand out of service in 1957, AR70 appears late 1970's. American guns might be heavier because they were made to fight with, not run away with.

 

[1KPerDay]

hewwww boyyyy

 

[saturno_v]

Hmm Garand out of service in 1957, AR70 appears late 1970's. American guns might be heavier because they were made to fight with, not run away with.

have you ever marched all loaded up with your military gear and a Garand for miles?? No....I did and was not pleasant....

 

[BrocLuno]

Amen to that

 

[FlyinBryan]

i think he was commenting on the statement that you said you carried a garand as a service rifle, but when you could you would grab up a rifle that would not be introduced until 15 years after the garand was long gone.

to be honest every veteran who fought in an actual war with them loved them. just all the ones ive heard talk about them in person, in books, and on tv.

(really just my grandfather, my uncles that lived through ww2. one in the south pacific, and one in europe. my uncle sam was killed on luzon so i couldnt say about him or what he carried.) my uncle leslie (purple heart) and my uncle dub have both passed on, but were in total love with the garand.

lol, my uncle leslie said "everytime i got in a gunfight with my m1, i won"
(makes sense since he was alive to tell me)

i loved him and just lost him last fall.

 

[saturno_v]

think he was commenting on the statement that you said you carried a garand as a service rifle, but when you could you would grab up a rifle that would not be introduced until 15 years after the garand was long gone.

to be honest every veteran who fought in an actual war with them loved them. just all the ones ive heard talk about them in person, in books, and on tv.

(really just my grandfather, my uncles that lived through ww2. one in the south pacific, and one in europe. my uncle sam was killed on luzon so i couldnt say about him or what he carried.) my uncle leslie (purple heart) and my uncle dub have both passed on, but were in total love with the garand.

lol, my uncle leslie said "everytime i got in a gunfight with my m1, i won"
(makes sense since he was alive to tell me)

i loved him and just lost him last fall.

It definitely did give you an advantage compared to the bolt action of the time......in addition to that, two of the major Garand opponents, the Italian Mod. 91 and the Japanese Arisaka, were firing less powerful cartridges as well, giving less range and knock down capability...only the Mauser 98 round was a match for the 30-06....