M1A info... ?

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Dionysusigma

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I would be greatly appreciative if anyone could give me info on this fine, fine rifle. There's a ton of stuff on this forum and the Internet about the M1 Garand and the AR-15, but I don't really know of any sources for the M1A/ M14.

I wanna know the reliability, ease of finding spare parts, sources for rifle and/or parts, history, recommended ammo, everything. Websites, personal experiences, all of it. :)

Thanks in advance!
 
The problem is that unlike the M1, there are only a tiny number of real government issue M14's in the hands of the public. They are legally machineguns and only a few owned and registered prior to 1986 can be transferred. (Yes, nitpickers, I know about those two guns, but Dionysusigma isn't going to be able to buy one of those.)

There are a number of semi-auto versions of the M14 available. Arguably the best is the M1A, made by Springfield Armory, Inc., a private company not associated with the government Springfield Armory, long closed.

SA, Inc., receivers and some other parts are cast, but the guns still are of reasonable quality. Other companies sell receivers and/or complete guns, some of which have some GI parts. Many folks are buying receivers and then having Fulton Armory or other outfits put the rifles together for them.

I have two M14 clones. One is an early (1985) SA, Inc., match rifle that has performed well for several thousand rounds, and is quite accurate. All parts except the receiver are GI surplus. The other is a Federal Ordnance M14SA, made with a U.S. receiver and Chinese parts. I replaced the bolt with a GI bolt. It also has performed well and (to my surprise) shoots as well or better than the M1A. (I have heard horror stories about Fed Ord receivers, mostly of the rumor mill kind; all I can say is mine has given me no problems.)

One kind to avoid is the M14 rifles welded back together from scrap by an outfit called MKS. BATFE says those are still machineguns and are subject to seizure if found. So if offered one, run. Even if the "sale" is not some kind of scam by the Feds, you could lose the gun and your money.

Jim
 
I have posted a few negative reviews of my M1A but after replacing half of it's parts it is a very reliable rifle. It will chamber a round even if you allow the bolt to slowly close (A sign of relaibility) and after replacing bad SA parts it has functioned flawlessly for 200-300 rounds. If you buy a new Springfield Armory M1A you might get lucky and you might have to send it back for better parts.

If you hear of shooters having their bolts automatically disassemble while shooting know that SA has corrected this problem but in doing so they have created another. The extractor is held in by a plunger and spring that fit into a shallow hole in the extractor. SA now drills this hole too deep so when you remove the extractor to replace it with one that works you are forced to break the plunger in the process.

On the bright side, the 10 round magazine they supply with the rifle is very good quality so they will likely put out good 20 rounders when the AWB expires.
 
There is a LOT of info in the archives. Do a search for M1A in Rifles and read for a few days..then come back. You'll be much more educated, AND you'll relieve some of our more prolific posters from repeating themselves. :)
 
If I were to put optics on it, what's a good mount that'll still let me use the irons? What scope/holosight to use?

Walnut stock or fiberglass? (since money is an issue for me, I was thinking of purchasing one with the fiberglass stock and replacing it with a used wood one, if I can find it).

Or should I just say "**** it" and get (because of ny little amount of money) a mini-14? :(
 
I can't help you with optics, I prefer Irons on the M1A
Walnut or fiberglass- Neither! Buy it from SA with a birch stock which is cheaper but stronger than walnut. Then buy a Fiberglass stock from Fred.
http://www.fredsm14stocks.com
I have found the best accuracy with the fiberglass stock, but it is not as pleasing to the eye so I have the new birch stock just sitting around in case I want a pretty rifle again.

The Mini-14 is not in the same class of rifle as the M1A and worse it is made by Ruger. If you don't want to spend $1,100 on the M1A, then get a M1 Garand for $350-$500 and enjoy. If you are going to replace the barrel with a .308 barrel then start with one with throat erosion from 5-8 to save money.
 
You can find a lot of info on the M1A on the M1/M1A board at www.jouster.com.
There are often M1As offered on the for sale board there too.

I used to shoot an M1A in NRA Highpower Rifle matches.
The rifle is my most consistently accurate rifle. It has shot under MOA groups at 200 yards with my reloads using cheap Winchester 147 grain pulled boatail bullets and H4895 powder.

I plan to shoot it more this summer than I have been. If I get in shape I may even be able to shoot a match with it again this fall.
 
Whoa, the Lithuanian M14L1 looks badass! Thanks for the link Brian.


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"...Walnut stock or fiberglass?..." Walnut. I find the plastic stock causes a great deal of muzzle jump on my real, semi'd M-14. The felt recoil is nothing, but the muzzle does jump when shooting off hand.
I don't know of any scope mount that will let you use the iron sights at the same time that won't put the scope extremely high. The original scope mount was designed to come off easily and still maintain zero, but it puts the scope fairly high too. Needs a cheek rest.
There's all kinds of info on the rifle on the net. Just do a search.
 
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