Man on Fire inconsistencies

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Yeah, I know it's not a new movie and I know that threads exist about movies with poor gun handling or unrealistic gun fights/scenes, but I just watched Man on Fire again last night and noticed a few errors.

The first one:

A Glock is fired with its magazine removed and a round in the chamber and...the slide locks open afterward! Impossible without the magazine inserted.

The second one:

Denzel Washington's character pulls out a 1911, cocks it and points it at the bad guy. A few moments later he is seen still threatening the bad guy with the same gun...but with the hammer down. I hope that if I am ever in a life or death situation I will have the good fortune of facing a criminal who at contact distance wields an uncocked single-action pistol.

Why don't they have gun-knowledgeable people assist in the editing of these movies? You don't see actors pretending to drive cars that are obviously in park instead of drive.
 
I hope that if I am ever in a life or death situation I will have the good fortune of facing a criminal who at contact distance wields an uncocked single-action pistol.
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Then always be a bad guy in the movies. The 1911 is almost always used with the hammer down. I guess some folks think that it's a DA like the Beretta... I dunno.
 
Ya just gotta learn to ignore these things and realize most movies are made by drug addict liberal fruity movie directors who have never fired a gun before in their life.
 
What about no backblast from the RPG? ...or all the C4 up the kiester?

Oh yeah, it's just a movie based on a book, it has no basis on reality...
 
Hey, IIRC, in the book, he parachuted into Mafia HQ at night decked out in full French Foreign Legion uniform + SMG, killed everyone, and got away alive but with everyone thinking he was dead.

Anyway, it's nothing that remarkable. I've had friends in the Editor's Guild tell me all kinds of stories about gunplay mistakes made in post production. Mostly they're annoying and boring. It's a lucky day for viewers when they actually have the conversation that goes like;
Editor #1: "Hey, you can't put in 28 gunshot sounds there."

Editor #2: "Why not?"

Editor #1: "Because that's character's using a revolver."

Editor #2: "So how many shots can I put in?"

Editor #1: "Let's stick with six."

I'm pretty glad that that's not my workday.

(actual conversation from the editing of Rush Hour 2)
 

A Glock is fired with its magazine removed and a round in the chamber and...the slide locks open afterward! Impossible without the magazine inserted.


Actually that is not true. IF you ride your thumb UNDER the slide release/stop lever... When you fire the slide will lock open.. (With no mag or loaded mag) The reverse is also true. Ride thumb on (top of) slide release and it will not lock open on last rd.
 
A Glock is fired with its magazine removed and a round in the chamber and...the slide locks open afterward! Impossible without the magazine inserted.


Actually that is not true. IF you ride your thumb UNDER the slide release/stop lever... When you fire the slide will lock open.. (With no mag or loaded mag) The reverse is also true. Ride thumb on (top of) slide release and it will not lock open on last rd.
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Well, if the scene to which he refers is the scene where Pita's father offs himself, I'd say it's pretty much impossible for the slide to lock open. Especially seeing as how the guy is dead! He ain't gwan push the slide stop with his thumb, now is he?
 
Star Wars was full of historical inaccuracies.
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Loved that wisecrack! I laughed historically!

[rantle]

What irks me is that this business of being required to suspend reality, or more correctly, suspend "critical thinking" has turned this nation into a bunch of fluffheads. We are virtually trained to not think.

Schools? Movies? Video Games? Parents? Who's to blame?

I can't say where it all started, but I remember those cliffhanger Saturday movie serials where the hero was left hanging off a cliff, perhaps even falling, and the next week, there he was on the ground, hale and hearty, Doing Good again.

Even as a kid, that bothered me, but it never seemed to bother my grade school friends. They just somehow took it for granted that the hero would survive "somehow" and continue all the Good Doing.

So here we are, in a survival-free society, meaning we don't have to do much to survive except plod to work every day, and our sense of danger has evaporated. We cross streets now according to the walk lights with nary a cautionary glance either way "just in case."

After all, there's no real reason to look both ways anymore. The lights will take care of us.

There's no reason to watch the kids any more. After all, the TV and video games will take care of that.

There's no reason to go out and "harvest" (to use the "correct" term) our meat any more. King Soopers does that icky stuff --with either a powder- or pneumatically- actuated hammer to the forehead. Ick.

There's no reason to construct a spending budget any more. After all, that's what Credit Cards are for. I'll bet that about 50% of the time the beggar on the street has a more positive net worth than you do, when you add it all up.

[headshake]No sense of reality.[/headshake]

And so, Indian Jones can somehow get aboard a submarine and then somehow in the next scene be running around the submarine's dock after an underwater trip without anyone thinking about how'd he dood dat? any more.

Plot holes?

Never mind. Enjoy the movie.

[/rantle]

(rantle = rant + ramble)
 
To anyone nit picking Man on Fire: silence! That movie rocks. In fact, Denzel's character, John Creasy, is the other side of my Walter Mitty. Now excuse me while I go fight off the barbarian hoards.
 
Funny, I was just thinking about the 1911 thing earlier today. Oh, and not much recoil from that sxs sawed-off either.

Did anyone count how many rounds were fired out of his Glock during the Chief of Police scene?

EDIT: Definitely one of my favorite movies...ever.
 
So what you guys are saying, is that in a movie with great acting, a good story, and Christopher Walken (who can do no wrong), you're upset because a Glock slide locked back, and a 1911 hammer was down?

Tough crowd.

And 230RN, in my day we used to take the ferry to Shelbyville, but it was called West Ogdenville back in those days. I was wearing an onion, because that was the fashion of the day...
 
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