I been hearing rumors Marlin was going to drop teir web page and they did it . I'm p#%$ed I spent a lot of great hours surfing their forum and learned a lot. The Marlin forum got me interested in leverguns and I purchased an 1894C. I had plans for more Marlins in the future but I feel like I've been stabbed in the back. For me Wins or Pumas when I get ready to buy a new levergun.