Marlin announcement from Ruger

[TTv2]

Ruger bought Marlin for one reason: to break into the lever action market. What are the best selling lever actions right now? 1894's and Henry Big Boys. I expect Ruger Marlin to start with lever actions that shoot .30-30, .357, and .44 first.

When they will launch, IDK. Would be smart to launch them right before hunting season begins in September.

 

[Ranger99]

Hopefully they'll be releasing rifles by
the end of the week.
There's any sighting in and load development
and much practicing to be done in the
interim between now and this year's
fall/winter hunting season
Of course, since I've been seriously
hunting big game animals, I've always
seen those that will buy a firearm 2 days
before the opener and take it and their
box of ammo they bought and just go
out in the field as is. Same with archery
hunting. They're always the ones that
post online about " where do you hold
at 250 yards with a 20 yard sight in?"

 

[danez71]

When they will launch, IDK. Would be smart to launch them right before hunting season begins in September

It's gunna be close if they do...

we anticipate bringing these products to market in the second half of 2021.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/resources/customer-service

 

[chicharrones]

Maybe the first batch of new Marlins will not be lever actions at all? Maybe they will be rebranded Ruger American rifles? Perhaps the Marlin line of bolt action centerfire rifles will be resurrected instead of lever actions?

Heretic.

 

[Riomouse911]

Maybe the first batch of new Marlins will not be lever actions at all? Maybe they will be rebranded Ruger American rifles? Perhaps the Marlin line of bolt action centerfire rifles will be resurrected instead of lever actions?

Could be... I’m thinking there is a slim chance they may rebrand their “budget” guns under the Marlin name to differentiate between the premium Ruger price point and put an old and established name on their lower price point guns. I wouldn’t bet on it but it wouldn’t shock me...

But I’ll bet they’ll continue producing lever Marlins and will also do a lot of Lipseys exclusives in different caliber or in stainless at a higher price.

A walnut and stainless 1894 in .327, .41, .454 (if strong enough), .480 /.475 Linebaugh, etc. would be a seller for Lipseys. (I know I’d buy at least a .41.)

Stay safe.

 

[danez71]

A walnut and stainless 1894 in .327, .41, .454 (if strong enough), .480 /.475 Linebaugh, etc. would be a seller for Lipseys. (I know I’d buy at least a .41.)

I think they'd be real smart to do a .327 in an 1894 that could also shoot. 32 H&R mags to pair up with the .327 Single Seven.

It just dawned on me.... if they can make a .327 Single Seven, why can't they make a 357 mag on the same frame?

 

[CraigC]

Bear in mind that anything housing the .454 cartridge will have to be a brand new design. None of the existing Marlins will handle it.

 

[P89DCSS]

..... the Smiths were simply better built pistols....

That's why Buffalo Bore makes S&W only loads, right?

 

[mcb]

That's why Buffalo Bore makes S&W only loads, right?

Sliding way off topic but if you look and see who is shooting practical pistol sports (USPSA, IPSC, IDPA) with a revolver S&W dominated these sports. These are some of the best revolver shooters going and they're shooting tens of thousands of rounds a year.

The quality of a revolver includes aspects beyond the ability to shoot over pressure ammo.

 

[Charlie98]

Bear in mind that anything housing the .454 cartridge will have to be a brand new design. None of the existing Marlins will handle it.

Do you think updated internal metallurgy would do it, or would it have to be a ground-up design with a different receiver? I've often wondered how far Marlin (now Ruger) would have to go to make 1894's in a cartridge like the .454, or even .500.

 

[Charlie98]

Model 60

I've also wondered if Ruger would waste the time to produce the Marlin rimfire rifles (Model 60, et al) when they already have the wildly popular 10/22 in all it's incarnations.

 

[GooseGestapo]

I’ll take a M1894CL in .327Federal. To match my .218Bee.

Added: But... IF they bring back the LeverMatic , I’ll take a .30Carbine instead!
Always wanted one. Couldn’t justify purchase when .30Carb wasn’t deer legal. But now I’d jump on a nicely blued/ semi-fancy walnut one. IF, under a grand...

I’m hoping that Ruger will make Marlin a complementary UpScale line to the Ruger #1....
Got one of those, too! A #1 RSI in 7x57!

I still have a sour taste in my mouth from the one, and only Henry. An early.22Mag I won at a PPC Regional. Plastic front sight/barrel bands, Zamac receiver. Accuracy was 3” at 50yds with assortment of ammo. It went down the road.

I also agree that Marlins weren’t the amazing quality that many glamorize. My 2018 M1894 .44mag had the WORST barrel I’ve ever owned. It shot even worse than the circa 1975 .44mag. Beautiful rifle, though.

 

[danez71]

I've also wondered if Ruger would waste the time to produce the Marlin rimfire rifles (Model 60, et al) when they already have the wildly popular 10/22 in all it's incarnations.

I predict they will (assuming they can make a profit).

I like the 10/22... having said that...
The 60 is also widely popular. It's svelt compared to the 10/22 and a completely different animal that eats the same food.

I feel that the average 60 fan & new buyers looking for a trim tube fed 22lr would look to a different alternative before transitioning to a 10/22. In my mind, it would be like McDonald's acquiring Burger King and eliminating the Whopper which is their biggest seller.

The other 22lr's I'm not as confident.

 

[Charlie98]

I predict they will (assuming they can make a profit).

I like the 10/22... having said that...
The 60 is also widely popular. It's svelt compared to the 10/22 and a completely different animal that eats the same food.

I feel that the average 60 fan & new buyers looking for a trim tube fed 22lr would look to a different alternative before transitioning to a 10/22. In my mind, it would be like McDonald's acquiring Burger King and eliminating the Whopper which is their biggest seller.

The other 22lr's I'm not as confident.

Interesting view. I have one of each... I prefer the Model 60 because it fits me better. Actually, I have the best of both worlds... a 99M1... a tube-feeder the size of a 10/22!

 

[Charlie98]

That's why Buffalo Bore makes S&W only loads, right?

I didn't say the S&W was stronger, but it is a better built and fitted pistol, generally speaking.

 

[FAS1]

I have a very basic 30AW that I love. All they really need to do is have good QC and produce an excellent product, but I have been seeing some guys making some with M-LOK handguard, optics mounts, etc. on them and seems like there's probably enough demand for something like this today.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

Probably a 336 in .30-30 first, then 1894's, then 1895's.

 

[mcb]

I have a very basic 30AW that I love. All they really need to do is have good QC and produce an excellent product, but I have been seeing some guys making some with M-LOK handguard, optics mounts, etc. on them and seems like there's probably enough demand for something like this today.

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Oh now you did it. The traditionalists will be along shortly to beat you savagely about the head and body, remove that hideous handguard and return that rifle back to a proper blued and walnut finish.

Personally I like it's, except its missing a good suppressor.

 

[FAS1]

Personally I like it's, except its missing a good suppressor.

That's always an option.

 

[mcb]

That's always an option.

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Much better!

 

[CraigC]

Sliding way off topic but if you look and see who is shooting practical pistol sports (USPSA, IPSC, IDPA) with a revolver S&W dominated these sports. These are some of the best revolver shooters going and they're shooting tens of thousands of rounds a year.

The quality of a revolver includes aspects beyond the ability to shoot over pressure ammo.

There is one reason for that and one reason only, trigger reset. People like Miculek can outrun the trigger return on a Colt, Ruger, Dan Wesson, etc.. The S&W's trigger reset is the quickest. That and Ruger has never pushed itself into revolver shooting sports. They've always been aimed more at the outdoorsman.

Do you think updated internal metallurgy would do it, or would it have to be a ground-up design with a different receiver? I've often wondered how far Marlin (now Ruger) would have to go to make 1894's in a cartridge like the .454, or even .500.

I doubt it. When every manufacturer was clamoring to produce a .454 levergun, the shortcoming was the design. In this regard, the 1892 is actually the strongest action available, that is smaller than an 1886.

I didn't say the S&W was stronger, but it is a better built and fitted pistol, generally speaking.

They used to be anyway. Better fitted & finished. This is by design. Ruger wanted his guns to be more affordable and one area where costs were cut was in fit & finish. I have a hard time going along with "better built" when they shoot loose with factory ammo.

I have a very basic 30AW that I love. All they really need to do is have good QC and produce an excellent product, but I have been seeing some guys making some with M-LOK handguard, optics mounts, etc. on them and seems like there's probably enough demand for something like this today.

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Count me in! I have plenty of blued steel and walnut leverguns. They don't all have to be that way. The M-lok forend greatly expands the gun's utility and capability. Even if the purists can't admit it. I just want a fast twist barrel on my .44's and .45's.

 

[gunmechanic]

I just want a 336 or 1894 in 357 .wanted one for years, do not like the henrys. Have looked at the new winchesters but want a USA made gun .Guess i will wait and see what the new marlins look like and what cals/models they produced .

 

[ECVMatt]

Maybe they will make a Model 60 that takes 10/22 magazines?



All kidding aside, I am just hoping for a good 1894 that is available and reasonably priced. I would love to see a relaunch of the "P" series. I would also like to see something similar to the LTS or Marauder in the 336 line. Even though everyone has their favorite version in mind, I bet Ruger plays it safe and comes out with the standard 20" in the 336 and 18" in the 1894's. We will see.

 

[Charlie98]

In this regard, the 1892 is actually the strongest action available,

I wish the 1892 was a little more available than it is... but I don't see Ruger kicking out 1892's in lieu of anything else.

They used to be anyway. Better fitted & finished. This is by design. Ruger wanted his guns to be more affordable and one area where costs were cut was in fit & finish. I have a hard time going along with "better built" when they shoot loose with factory ammo.

Better built... mostly I mean action and trigger, as well as general assembly. They are certainly not stronger, per se. I don't really have a problem with Ruger's finish... they are as utilitarian as, well... most modern Marlin finishes, if you get right down to it.

 

[P89DCSS]

The nice thing about a Ruger/Marlin lever rifle is it'll handle Ruger only loads so us Ruger revolver owners won't have to worry about mixing rounds.

I found the recipe for S&W only 357/44 mag rounds. Take a full size magnum case and use a weak 700fps charge with a 125gn/180gn bullet. That should keep an S&W action nice and tight for a few years