Massachusetts: "State Weapons Ban Could Be Rendered Useless"

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from the WCVB site

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/2090184/detail.html
State Weapons Ban Could Be Rendered Useless
NRA Working To Block Renewal Of Federal Ban In 2004

POSTED: 7:22 a.m. EST April 4, 2003

BOSTON -- Massachusetts' five-year-old assault weapon ban could be rendered useless if the National Rifle Association is successful in blocking the renewal of the federal ban in 2004, state lawmakers warned Thursday.

The state's law, which squeaked through the Legislature in 1998, incorporates references to the federal ban, relying upon the congressional statute to define many of the terms used in the Massachusetts version.

If the federal ban were to be wiped off the books, many key phrases in the state law would no longer be legally defined, Rep. David Linsky, D-Natick, said.


"The Massachusetts law would be impossible to enforce," said Linksy, who appeared before the joint Committee on Public Safety to support a bill that would ensure that state ban would survive, even if the federal ban does not. "Given the makeup of Congress and the fact that the president of the United States is an avid NRA supporter, I have grave concerns that the federal assault weapon ban can survive."

The bill, proposed by Linksy and Sen. Cheryl Jacques, D-Needham, would also expand the state's ban to include all assault weapons and not just those made after Sept. 13, 1994, as under current law.

"A pre-1994 assault weapon is every bit as dangerous as a post-1994 assault weapon," Jacques said.

Gun rights advocates opposed the changes, arguing that there is no proof that the ban is working -- on either the federal or state level -- and that the state should not expand its landmark gun control law until problems with the original have been corrected.

In particular, they want to change a portion of the law that made youthful indiscretions a disqualification for gun ownership.

"I believe ... that Massachusetts doesn't really need further restrictions," said local National Rifle Association spokesman John Hohenwarter. "We're still trying to clean up the mess that was created in 1998."

Massachusetts' Gun Control Act of 1998, which required a tie-breaking vote in the Senate to win approval, is considered one of the most restrictive in the country.

Last year, gun lobbyists waged an unsuccessful campaign to change a portion of the law that prohibits people convicted of violent crimes -- including violent misdemeanors such as simple assault and minor drug crimes -- from applying for a license to carry a handgun or assault weapon.

The opposing sides are lining up this legislative session on a number of gun-related bills, many of which have been proposed repeatedly in the past.

Jacques is renewing her effort to establish a ballistic fingerprinting databank in Massachusetts. That's designed to identify bullets used in crimes by matching the unique markings made on them at the time of firing to the weapon that fired them. This type of technology was used in apprehending the alleged snipers in a string of shootings in Washington last fall.

Both sides predict a heated debate in Congress next fall, when the federal assault weapons ban is set to expire.

"There's definitely going to be a battle," said Rob Wilcox, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "In Congress, we haven't seen a commitment to renew it."

Federal NRA representatives say the ban simply has not worked.

"The question is why should we keep ineffective laws on the books," NRA public affairs director Andrew Arulanandan said. "Undoubtedly, there will be a healthy debate on this."

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Quite fitting since the People's Communewealth of Massachewsh*ts rendered itself useless, long, long ago.

Thank you God, for delivering me, your humble but unworthy servant, from that hopeless den of iniquity the PCM.

AMEN!
 
I personally believe that Captain Parker would take up his musket against the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
 
from the Daily News Tribune

http://www.dailynewstribune.com/news/local_regional/mw_gunlaw04042003.htm
Legislators push tougher gun law
By Michael Kunzelman
Friday, April 4, 2003

BOSTON -- Two MetroWest lawmakers clashed with gun lobbyists yesterday during a hearing on legislation aimed at closing loopholes in the state's assault weapons ban.


Assault weapons that were legally owned prior to Sept. 13, 1994, are exempt from the ban, which the Legislature enacted in 1998.

But state Sen. Cheryl Jacques, D-Needham, and state Rep. David Linsky, D-Natick, have co-sponsored a bill that would ban the sale of all assault weapons, no matter when they were made, bought or sold.

"It shouldn't matter whether a gun was owned before 1994 or after 1994. It's equally capable of causing death and destruction," said Linsky, who testified at a Public Safety Committee hearing yesterday.

Under the bill, anyone who legally owned an assault weapon prior to 1994 would be allowed to keep it, transfer ownership to an heir or law enforcement agency or sell it to a licensed dealer.

Licensed dealers only would be allowed to sell the weapons to law enforcement agencies.

Jacques said assault weapons appeal to criminals because they "kill as many people as quickly as possible."

"If we philosophically agree we should be banning assault weapons, then that distinction makes no sense whatsoever," she said of the 1994 loophole.

The measure, which the Legislature failed to adopt last year, encountered stiff opposition from gun owners' advocates during the hearing.

Jim Wallace, director of legislative affairs for the Gun Owners Action League in Northborough, said the state's ban is too broad, outlawing semiautomatic firearms that are popular with sportsmen and hunters.

"Licensed gun owners are being hammered by these laws," Wallace said. "We're the only ones being hurt. The criminals are having a field day."

Jacques cited convicted murderer Michael McDermott as proof that assault weapons can be easily obtained in Massachusetts, even with the ban in place.

McDermott, Jacques said, was armed with a "pre-1994" assault rifle when he went on a deadly shooting at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield two years ago.

Wallace, however, said McDermott didn't legally obtain the weapon.

"We have almost no evidence of lawfully obtained assault weapons being used in a crime in Massachusetts," he added.

Jacques and Linsky's bill also would make a potentially critical technical change to the language of the ban.

The state's 1998 law adopted the federal definition of an assault weapon. But if Congress fails to renew the federal assault weapons ban next year, the state's ban could lapse, according to Jacques.

Assistant Attorney General Glenn Kaplan testified in favor of the bill, saying he isn't aware of anyone who has a legitimate reason to use an assault weapon.

"(The bill) will certainly aid enforcement and improve public safety," Kaplan said.

Jacques and Linsky also co-sponsored a measure that calls for creating a statewide ballistic fingerprint database.

Gun makers would be required to provide state law enforcement officials with a discharged projectile and a spent shell casing for every gun sold in Massachusetts.

The samples would be entered in an electronic database, which could help investigators match the markings with ballistic evidence gathered at crime scenes.

Critics claim the term "ballistic fingerprint" is misleading because guns can be defaced in a way that renders the samples useless.

"As we all know, DNA in a human being cannot be altered, but ballistic fingerprints are not like DNA. They can be altered in a matter of minutes," said state Rep. George Petersen, R-Grafton.

Most criminals aren't sophisticated enough to know how to beat the system, countered Jacques and Linsky, both of whom are former prosecutors.

"Having prosecuted crimes for a number of years, I can tell you they're amazingly stupid," Jacques said.

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Jacques is renewing her effort to establish a ballistic fingerprinting databank in Massachusetts. That's designed to identify bullets used in crimes by matching the unique markings made on them at the time of firing to the weapon that fired them. This type of technology was used in apprehending the alleged snipers in a string of shootings in Washington last fall.

An absolute, bald-faced, out and out lie!

"Ballistic fingerprinting" had absolutely nothing to to with apprehending the DC snipers.

The only thing they (supposedly?) showed was that the bullets all came from the same gun.

When are we going to have an "Assault Lie Ban" ?????

:cuss:
 
definition of useless:

Something that has no practical value or worth and does not accomplish its intended purpose. Something that has a cost associated with it that is greater than the value of that which results.

Yes the Massachusetts assault weapon ban along with the federal one is useless.

:barf:
 
There is no way this side of he** that Massachusetts residents will EVER be allowed to reenact Lexington and Concord for real!

Just remember, the ceremonial musket in their legislative body's chamber, which probably hasn't been fired in a couple of hundred years, has a trigger lock.

Well, the commonwealth is about as good as the PRNJ and the PRK, and I'm afraid that there's no way back for them.

I do think, though, that since, sooner or later, all of their productive citizens will leave, having gotten sick of supporting the nonproductive electorate, that they should erect a fence around their state, guarded by their state police, to prevent the rest of us from flooding in.

Southern NH is starting to look, politically, like Mass, and there has to be a way to keep the virus isolated, 'cause it'd be real hard for us to move to Alaska.
 
"The Massachusetts law would be impossible to enforce."
Why do I get the feeling that the State of Mass will find a way to do so even if the federal ban laspses in 2004?
 
Most criminals aren't sophisticated enough to know how to beat the system, countered Jacques and Linsky, both of whom are former prosecutors.

"Having prosecuted crimes for a number of years, I can tell you they're amazingly stupid," Jacques said.


A wise man once said "When battling a monster take care that you do not become one as well." These two failed.

or


"Stupid is as stupid does." Take your pick.
 
Hmmm, I'd say that the criminals they caught were amazingly stupid. To be caught by such idiots. I'm willing to bet there are many crooks of normal intelligence doing quite well in the People's Commonwealth.
 
any of the MA members want to explain this "assault weapon ban". I got my LTC after the 1998 laws, and thought I knew the law. I've been buying ARs, M1As, FALs, etc. Legally, from dealers, did I fall asleep or something? Except for the rediculous handgun regs, I've been able to buy any firearms federally legal.
 
I second that, I live in MA half of the year and I've never heard of it as well.....Hell....I still see M14s, AR15s, etc with all the "Goodies" on them at numerous MA gunstores.
 
I see a patern here! First, the handgun was the choice of the BG. Then the assalt? rifle. Next the 50 ca. sniper rifle, and now it's the new S&W 500 revolver. Those BG's are a fickle lot, ain't they. Seems like they stay one step ahead of the anti's. Or is it just my mind working overtime?
 
Jacques said assault weapons appeal to criminals because they "kill as many people as quickly as possible."

Which is why roughly one to two percent of crimes involve an "assault weapon".
 
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