Medical marijuana user regains handgun license

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Medical Pot User Regains Handgun License

Medical marijuana user regains handgun license
Gun laws - A judge sides with a Beaverton man who challenged the revocation by Sheriff Rob Gordon
Tuesday, December 13, 2005
HOLLY DANKS

HILLSBORO -- Washington County Sheriff Rob Gordon must return the concealed handgun license that he revoked after a 53-year-old man said he frequently uses medical marijuana, a judge ruled Monday.

After a 45-minute hearing, Washington County Circuit Judge Marco Hernandez said the county did not present enough evidence to convince him that Steven Schwerdt of Beaverton was violating a federal law that prohibits a habitual drug user or addict from possessing a firearm.

"The idea is that Congress did not want people who are under the influence to be buying or possessing guns," Leland R. Berger, Schwerdt's attorney, said after the hearing. "Here, the use is medicinal. I think the sheriff unfairly singles out medical marijuana users."

Gordon took away Schwerdt's permit in September when Schwerdt indicated on a concealed handgun change of address form that he had a medical marijuana card and frequently used the drug. Schwerdt appealed the revocation to Washington County Circuit Court.

Oregon voters approved physician-approved medical marijuana use in 1998. Since then, more than 11,000 residents have received state-issued medical marijuana registry cards.

Elmer Dickens, Washington County counsel, said the sheriff was following the U.S. Gun Control Act, which prohibits people from having guns whose use of unlawful controlled substances is "consistent and prolonged."

According to a motion filed by Berger, federal courts have not ruled whether a medical marijuana patient can get a concealed handgun license or even legally possess a gun in the first place.

Dickens said the sheriff has revoked the concealed handgun licenses of four medical marijuana users. Schwerdt is the only one to go to court.

Chronic pain

Schwerdt said he received a medical marijuana card about a year ago to help relieve chronic pain from arthritis and other conditions related to obesity. He said he weighs 522 pounds, and can't stand or sit for prolonged periods, can't exercise and can't work.

"I am not addicted," he said Monday. "I use it two or three times a week and sometimes go a month without using. The pain dictates."

Schwerdt has had a Washington County concealed handgun license since 1997. But about the only time he carries a gun, he said, is when he drives to the Oregon Coast.

"It's hard to put into words how it makes me feel, but it gives me a little sense of calmness," Schwerdt said.

Schwerdt said a pair of hitchhikers he picked up in downtown Portland more than 30 years ago stabbed him 14 times and left him for dead in Hood River.

Dickens said he would talk to the sheriff before deciding whether to appeal Hernandez's decision to the Oregon Court of Appeals.

Other obstacles

Gordon denied that he is targeting medical marijuana users. The concealed handgun form also asks applicants whether they are illegal immigrants, fugitives from the law, or whether they have been convicted of domestic violence or been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces. Under federal law, people who fall into those groups, as well as users of unlawful controlled substances, are prohibited from possessing guns.

"I can't license someone to carry a weapon that the federal government says they can't have in the first place," Gordon said. "The legislators have to get together and get some clarity on that."

The question about drug use was not included on the concealed handgun forms when Schwerdt last renewed his license in August. The Washington County Sheriff's Office granted his renewal through August 2009; Schwerdt was following the law when he filled out a change of address form in September.

Lt. Shawn Fischer, who at the time was in charge of the county's concealed handgun unit, testified Monday that Schwerdt was "very cordial" and did not appear to be under the influence of drugs when they talked then.

"Risky people"

Dickens asked Hernandez "for a good-faith extension" of the federal law to Oregon's concealed handgun licensing process. In interpreting the Gun Control Act, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that Congress "intended to keep firearms out of the hands of presumptively risky people," Dickens argued.

However, Hernandez noted that Oregon lawmakers failed to give county sheriffs the authority to deny or revoke concealed handgun licenses specifically based on violations of federal law.

Berger said federal law enforcement agencies don't seek out medical marijuana users for prosecution, so local sheriffs shouldn't either. He said Schwerdt's marijuana use is a "responsible adult use of a nontoxic herbal remedy."

Dave Burright, executive director of the Oregon State Sheriffs' Association, said the organization does not have a policy on medical marijuana.
 
A buddy of mine taught Political Science at Texas A&M. He wanted to legalize marijuana and felt he could get enough stoners to make him President if he could get marijuana legalized. Once that happened, he would invoke various powers and seize control of the country and feel safe doing so. Why? Because the stoners would be mad and say something like, "WE gotta get SOB {toke, exhale} maybe tomorrow."

It seems to me that for the Texas CHL, one need not be addicted to an illegal drug, just a habitual user of impairing medication could be enough to preclude a person from having a CHL. I may not have that quite right, but Texas law is a bit more specific on things that disqualify folks from having CHLs.

I dont' know how I feel about stoners having licenses to carry. I could see arguing either side.

Since a lot of the bad guys may be stoners and carry guns, does letting good guy stoners carry guns create balance and harmony in society?
 
He wanted to legalize marijuana and felt he could get enough stoners to make him President if he could get marijuana legalized.

That was pretty much the Libertarian's grand strategy, until Iraq presented the opportunity to try to grab anti war votes from the Dems.
 
To me, calling an occaisional pot user a stoner is like calling an occaisional drinker an alcoholic, it just ain't necessarily so.

However, a few times a week, to me, is a lot of use. I'm glad the guy got his CHL back though.

-James
 
He said he weighs 522 pounds, and can't stand or sit for prolonged periods, can't exercise and can't work.
Guy probably doesn't spend much time out in public anyway ... presumably he doesn't carry or shoot when he's been tokin' up ...
does letting good guy stoners carry guns create balance and harmony in society?
Somehow I can't see that ... most of the stoners I've known seem to lose about 75 IQ points while they're high and I tend to worry about 'em even when they're just sitting on the couch watching the tube and eating all the Cheetos; I kind of have a problem with any hard-core habitual users of any substance (including alcohol) packin' around my family and me ...
 
Not to be demeaning or anything, but more mass should mean more material.
Based on what I know of the biology of intoxication for EtOH and cannibinoids, no. Delta9-THC (the chemical that gets one stoned) binds to a specific receptor on the neurons. EtOH has to rise to certain concentration in order for it to exhibit its intoxicationg effects. The greater the body mass, the more EtOH that has to be consumed to reach that concentration. I think. Its been awhile since I looked in depth at EtOH.
its bad when these cops drink and now they smoke pot thats just great,whats next.
Steroids. :neener:
 
I don't feel put in peril due to this fellow having a CHL.

To me, I am more worried by addicts & addiction than I am the particular substance they might be addicted to. This guy does not seem to be an addict, given what has been presented.
 
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