Merwin and Hulbert breaktops going back into production???

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Ran a search and found nothing.

What do folks think of this new development?

http://www.merwinhulbertco.com/


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I would view this with caution.
This is the same guy who made a flashy attempt to "SAVE WINCHESTER!!!!!" at a point where, for various reasons, it was not savable in New Haven, and there wasn't a chance in hell he could accomplish that goal.
After that, his company sold coffee mugs for a while when they were searching for some other gun they could get involved with.
This appears to be a re-organised attempt to get into the firearms industry, and I don't know if the other principals are the same, or if he has new partners/backers. The previous principals he had listed on his old website had little firearms production background or experience.
Now he seems to be largely selling bumper stickers.
I suggest not being in a hurry to tie up money in ordering a gun until the outfit demonstrates a more solid ability to produce a gun. :)
He may be able to pull off a resurrected MH, and I would not mind owning one of good quality, but I would prefer to see his operating capital firmly derived from sources other than pre-orders, and I would absolutely require both at least a finished prototype and a clearly established production facility before I sent them any money.
Just advice. :)
Denis
 
Cimarron's, if they can get it done, should be a much better bet coming from Uberti. Both companies are well-established.
Denis
 
Late last year, I participated in a thread about 19th century revolvers that failed to compete successfully against Colt, Remington and Smith & Wesson. The Merwin and Hulbert was one such design. Now, it was a great gun, but it could not succeed for several reasons. That said, a quality replica at an affordable price is something I would consider. You might wish to research that thread to discover what other said about it. Good luck.


Timthinker
 
I'm going out on a limb here because I don't have my reference stuff at work. However, I don't think the M&H is a "breaktop" similar to the S&W Schofields and Number 3's. IIRC, the M&H is opened by releasing a catch, pulling the barrel/cylinder assembly forward and twisting to the side. Maybe not. I think the M&H shown in the original post is the "Pocket Army" with the skull crusher on the grip. And I'd buy a quality repo in a heartbeat.
 
The later M&H had the tightest tolerance on a pistol I have ever seen! MAYBE with good CNC ...................:scrutiny:
 
I'd like to hope it is true, but there's no significant pictures or products - unless you count mugs, mousepads, and magnets... And the catalog request page looks like a fishing expedition.
 
I don't even like cowboy stuff even though I have quite a few SA revolvers but I've always admired the MH design.
 
.357 Magnum and .45 Long Colt Laramies from Beretta are proof that a breaktop can kick solid tail...
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I believe the maker intended that these revolvers be used with reduced-power CAS loads. :uhoh: :scrutiny:
 
The Merwin & Holberts were fitted like a fine watch. Around 1990 you could still buy them for way less the $200. I passed up a nickle solid frame 44wcf for $250 and been kicking myself since. A book came out about them and prices skyrocketed. If I'm not mistaken Hopkins & Allen were the contractors to make the M&H. There is so much hand fitting I wonder how well the Italian copy will be ablle to replicate an original. They are a marvel to handle one.
 
I read that three ship loads of pistols to the Russians were not paid, and some one ran off with $100,000 of company money.
Over a short time they had some 4 or more handles you could pick from.
A barrel change took 10 seconds. from a 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 or a 7 inch barrel.
The best made pistol of it's time and well into the next centruy.
 
Wouldn't the M&H be noted as a side-break opening revolver. One that pivots either left or right on the barrel in the frame...forgot which way it pivots.

They once made a lot of .44-40 caliber, but would only be interested in .44 special if they made them again.

Jim
 
Cameronafter8 your right about the Russians not paying and that lost income was most likely the number 1 reason the company went broke. I own a Merwin, Hulbert & Co. revolver and the workmanship that goes into one is truely remarkable considering this gun was made in the 1880's. LM
 
Harve Curry, They (Merwin, Hulbert & Co.) never made them in .44 special but did make them in .44 Russian. If some company like Uberti would make them again it would make a good sence to make one in .44 special and maybe a convertable one with a 44-40 cylinder to go with it. LM
 
How is the trigger on those pistols?
The single actions and the double actions.
I have a few nice pictures on my computer for my screen saver, but don't know how to copy it here. One shows thier own style of engraving.
 
MH was a "slider", not a breaktop, and was killed because they were very skilled labor intensive. They would have done better if they had robots in thos days, but....
I would love to see a Uberti version of one of these, but would not want to see the price tag, especially in these lo-value dollar days.
I have seen and handled an original, and it was real artwork.


mark
 
Here's a dealers web site that has some very nice Merwin, Hulbert & Co. revolvers. http://www.ocyoung.com/Merwin.htm
I enjoy looking at them, wishing I had the money to getting a better one than the one I own. LM

Cameronafter8, the trigger on my single action 3rd model pocket army is at least 5 lbs or more as most old 19th century guns seem to have an extra heavy trigger pull but it doesn't have any trigger creep.
 
I am going to double my speculative investments...this week.
I'm going to play the lottery twice.

Having seen the prices wanted for the old M&H's.
 
Not enough information on that website to allow an opinion.
A crappy replica is still a crappy replica.
 
Without a specific manufacturer, distributor or importer cited in the ad, and the urging to preorder, visions of the Bren 10 come to mind.

That said, if it were to truly come to pass that Uberti or the like would make 'em, and Cimmaron or another reputable firm was handling them, I'd be sorely tempted.

But...even with CAD and CNC I shudder to contemplate the prices now that the Euro is nearing $2.
 
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