Mexican Gov't Demands new AWB for USA

[Kimber1911_06238]

tell them that we'll stop producing "assault weapons" when they stop producing drugs

 

[DogBonz]

how about eliminating the drug dealers...

And leave the guns alone

 

[Master Blaster]

Sounds like free trade to me.

They send us Drugs and Violent criminals, we send them US $ and Guns in return.

Dont like the equation then keep the Drugs and Violent criminals on your side of the Border.

Really, blaming us for their inability to control mexican citizens, and blamming us for the fact that their criminals come here to commit crimes, and insisting that lawabiding US citizens be punnished for the crimes of mexican turds...


Really takes some Cahonnes.

 

[mpmarty]

Boycott

No, boycott everything Mexican and export all those not citizens. Stop the transfer of american dollars out of the country tax free. Anyone who comes here from Mexico, lives in a bracero camp and sends 90% of his earnings to Mexico should be taxed on the dollars leaving this country.

 

[mljdeckard]

You know what? I flat don't believe it.

I don't believe that the coming and going of the '94 AWB had any perceptible change of any kind on what goes in and out of Mexico. We all know the rifles were just as available then as they are now. He's making it all up from sctatch. He can't produce one viable indicator that there has been any increase of any kind times with the AWB sunset.

He just wants to blame America for the crime in Mexico.

 

[localFFL]

Hey if mexican nationals are coming up here and helping out U.S. gun manufacturers then GREAT. What happens in mexico is MEXICO'S problem. To assert otherwise would be using the lingo of the one worlders who have watered down american sovereignty a great deal since WWII. I will however continue to assert that America and we citizens are sovereign and not subject to the laws/intimidation of a foreign nation.

The previous mexican president was THIS CLOSE [holds fingers one hair apart] to signing the common sense re legalization of most drugs, which would have put the cartels out of business and ended the turf wars (those same turf wars that Calderon CLAIMS he hates so much) almost overnight. However, someone in the police state establishment GOT to the previous mexican president (Fox) and he didn't sign it. True liberty almost never wins anymore.

 

[Kimber1911_06238]

Can we build an electrified fence on the border and post snipers in guard towers every 200 years or so for interlocking fields of fire?

 

[romma]

Finally American manufactured products being exported... Good for us I say!

 

[ForeverArmed]

Ending the War on Drugs would be a big step towards quashing this sort of idiocy. Of course, the puritanical prohibitionistas on both sides are utterly blind to their hypocrisy.

Amen!

If the Drug War were a movie, its title would be Prohibition Part II: America Never Learns.

There would be no "War on Drugs" if people could just mind their own damn business and worry about their own health. I can understand there being laws against minors using drugs, but adults? In the privacy of their own home?

Drug prohibition is the sole reason why drugs are so profitable to sell. A bag of coke worth $10,000 would be worth $0.50 if coke were legal. It's basic economics. Then there would be no incentive to sell it, get kids hooked on it, or kill people over it.

Meanwhile, because this is a war on drugs -- and we all know that war justifies anything -- citizens' civil rights and privacy are in the crosshairs. We have peoples' doors being kicked in, the military involved in civilian law enforcement, and confiscation of money and property without trial or evidence. It's a sick, sick situation.

The only hope is the Libertarian party. But until all true freedom-lovers realize that, nothing's going to change.

 

[Kali Endgame]

This is why I think the US keeps pandering to Mexico.

Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Nov-06 Oct-06 YTD 2006 Nov-05 Jan - Nov 2005
CANADA 2,065 1,7041,7781,7561,609
MEXICO 1,462 1,481 1,606 1,658 1,542 SAUDI ARABIA 1,444 1,322 1,417 1,267 1,445
VENEZUELA 1,069 1,125 1,146 1,009 1,246
NIGERIA 919 1,049 1,046 1,163 1,068
IRAQ 589 505 567 572 540
ANGOLA 505 506 504 658 458
ALGERIA 253 449 352 265 230
KUWAIT 253 234 180 273 223
ECUADOR 243 315 274 264 270
BRAZIL 156 171 134 65 88
UNITED KINGDOM 119 74 131 229 241
CHAD 118 109 93 33 78
NORWAY 81 120 97 103 124
AZERBAIJAN 77 88 23 0 0

The chart is better on the website.

 

[rhubarb]

Nationwide, in a country of 110 million people, there are only 4,323 weapons legally held by citizens, the Mexican government says.

¡Baboso! Thank goodness for the U.S. of A.! Poor Mexcans.

 

[Outlaws]

I called him and left a messege. Short barrel rifles fall under the NFA so as his article claims, he is incorrect is stating "no paperwork". I figure it was a carbine, not an actual SBR, but it was scare tacticles non the less IMO.

 

[Frog48]

This article is ridiculous.

1) Alot of these drug gangs are armed by M-16's stolen from (or sold to them by) corrupt Mexican military officers.

2) These weapons-in-question are a dime a dozen on the black market in Mexico, many smuggled into Mexico from central and south American countries.

3) The black market weapons referred to in point 2 are often full-auto variants, not the neutered semi-auto civilian versions available in the US.

An ex-girlfriend of mine (and still good friend) lived for a while in Guadalajara and Juarez prior to moving back to Texas for college, because her dad's company did lots of business in Mexico... I've heard stories yall wouldnt believe, nor how easy and cheap it is to get a full-auto AK-47 down there.

 

[mbt2001]

Wow... There military is making raids into our border states, shooting at our National Guard and WE are the problem? We are sending 30+ billion in remittances, more in aid and more in oil payments, shelling out who knows how many Hundred billion in dollars to pay for the education, medical, public transport, social security of illegal aliens

....and they are going to pull a Bloomberg on the U.S. and blame us for their high crime rates..

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

[RNB65]

It sounds to me like Mexico has a border control problem.

Let's offer them a deal. They stop illegal aliens from crossing the border, we'll stop illegal guns from crossing the border.

Sounds fair.

 

[Geno]

Simple resolution

There is a very simple resolution...close the border.

Question: Since when does Mexico demand anything of us? Of our government? My thoughts to any Mexican político who thinks they run our country:

iAnda a la miechiga nuco huevón!

Doc2005

 

[Dan from MI]

When the Mexican governments starts working to control our border, then I'll maybe consider what they have to say about gun laws. Until then, they need to know their role, and shut their mouths.

 

[jlrhiner]

Could be, they are just laying the ground work for the "La Reconquista" that is all over the internet. suppose it would be a nice thing to have all those gringos unarmed.

 

[Zoogster]

X-ray scanners on the Mexican side of border

Scary, so now when you drive across the border expect the Mexicans to be radiating you. Many trips to Mexico and your risk for cancer is going to skyrocket.

Most of the weaponry comes from the Mexican military that is armed with weapons from the USA. So naturaly weapons from thier military will be from the USA.

Guerrero state included 11 AR-15s, two AK-47s, ammunition, magazines, hand grenades, bulletproof vests, fatigues and combat boots.

I am sure the hand grenades came from our civilian market as well as the other Mexican army supplies.

the Mexican gangs have turned to assault rifles, grenade launchers and even anti-tank rockets.

Along with the grenade launchers and grenade ammunition for them. Last gun show I went to offered "anti-tank rockets" with every purchase over $1000, ...and I have a bridge to sell you.

I do not doubt there is a serious problem in Mexico. Nor do I doubt there is demand by the citizens to have arms suitable to protect themselves when the average cartel is well equiped with m16's and other weaponry, as well as body armor from the Mexican army. It is one more example of what happens when only outlaws have guns. They are that much more emboldened.

They rounded up residents, then raked the empty village with American-made AR-15 rifles.

Sounds like the problem is these residents couldn't defend themselves even when they had several minutes of being rounded up to do so. Maybe if guns were not illegal in Mexico for all intents and purposes then the criminals and corrupt government backed cartels would not have a monopoly on them.

Seriously we need to just make a Israel style border complete with multiple fences, a road in the middle to patrol, and land mines. The problem would cease to exist. One side blaming the other for problems would cease and we would see what country runs out of excuses and collapses and which one continues to function smoothly.

 

[SoCalShooter]

Better idea. BORDER WALL. Hell with a fence. Passports required for Americans heading south, and NO MEXICANS coming north.

End the problem. I'm sick of representatives of one of the most filthily corrupt governments in the WORLD blaming the US for anything, and even sicker of the US administration cringing and bowing to their demands.

If we had a real President, or other real officials, the response to this would be two words, beginning with an F, and ending with 'You'.

Damn straight. Why dont they do something about their drug issues rather than taking kickbacks.

 

[Geno]

What did Mexico and various Central and South American countries once say?

If the U.S. didn't have a demand for their "supplies", there wouldn't be a drug problem in America. Well, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If their corrupt police didn't demand firearms to use illegally, then there wouldn't be a gun problem in Mexico. In a related note, see Mexico's need for firearms control, and the why, "Mexican Gun Control: Disarm the Local Police":

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3009777#post3009777

Hmmm.

Doc2005

 

[308win]

I find it hard to believe that the drug cartels are paying retail for semi-automatic weapons. With their resources they undoubtedly can get fully automatic for less than they are paying for the semi's; probably by the truckload.

 

[Caimlas]

Hmm. How do they know they were AR-15s which came over the border from the United States, "smuggled under the seat" and what have you? Sounds like bull pucky to me.

Hmm. Does the Mexican government not receive M16s and M4s from the United States as part of our "aid package" to their struggling government?

 

[Frog48]

Scary, so now when you drive across the border expect the Mexicans to be radiating you. Many trips to Mexico and your risk for cancer is going to skyrocket.

Thats still safer than drinking their water.

 

[longeyes]

The previous mexican president was THIS CLOSE [holds fingers one hair apart] to signing the common sense re legalization of most drugs, which would have put the cartels out of business and ended the turf wars (those same turf wars that Calderon CLAIMS he hates so much) almost overnight. However, someone in the police state establishment GOT to the previous mexican president (Fox) and he didn't sign it. True liberty almost never wins anymore.

Liberty doesn't pay as well as drugs. A lot of people, on both sides of the border, are leading the good life because of the high price of illicit drugs.