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Mexico lobbies for alien amnesty

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The Mexican government is lobbying U.S. lawmakers and civic leaders for amnesty or guest-worker status for millions of illegal aliens now in the United States, working through a coalition of U.S.-based immigration rights associations, Mexican-American organizations and grass-roots Hispanic groups.


This growing political alliance, which also seeks expanded education and health care benefits for Mexican nationals in this country, along with additional programs for labor, community development and access to services, is led by the Institute for Mexicans Abroad, also known as the Instituto de los Mexicanos en el Exterior.

Known by the Spanish acronym IME, the institute was created by presidential decree and reports to a counsel of Mexican government officials headed by President Vicente Fox as a branch of Mexico's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It has called U.S. immigration reform a major priority, recommending policy changes that respect "the needs and rights" of Mexican nationals living and working in this country.

Mr. Fox will meet tomorrow and Saturday with President Bush in Crawford, Texas, where immigration issues will be among several topics on the agenda. In January, Mr. Bush proposed a guest-worker program that could give legal status to millions of illegal aliens, mostly Mexican nationals, who now hold jobs in the United States.

According to its own records, IME's stated purpose is to attend to the millions of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who live in the United States as citizens, residents, temporary workers and illegal aliens. It is not a legislative body, nor is it responsible for the implementation of public policies, but it advises the Mexican government on efforts to improve and expand services and benefits to Mexicans living in other countries.

Recommendations come from an advisory board of 130 members, mostly Mexican-Americans who live in the United States.

Working with the IME, a coalition of local and statewide immigration rights associations, Mexican-American organizations and local Hispanic groups count among its members a number of illegal aliens and first-generation Mexican migrants, who have formed into groups known as "federations" from Los Angeles to Miami.

IME President Candido Morales has described efforts to reach out to the Mexican-born population as important to ensuring that millions of Mexican nationals now in the United States feel they have a "connection" with the government of their adopted country.

Mr. Morales, a citizen of both the United States and Mexico, is based at the Foreign Ministry Office in Mexico City and was unavailable for comment.

Jacob Prado, counselor for Latino affairs at the Mexican Embassy in Washington D.C., said Mr. Fox created the IME in 2002 to promote a "more comprehensive approach" in protecting the rights of Mexicans living abroad. He said a council of 11 Mexican government secretaries, along with Mr. Fox, oversee its operation.

Mr. Prado said the advisory board consists of members from a number of organizations, including "hometown clubs and national groups" — like the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC).

He acknowledged that immigration reform is a key issue and that the board has sought to make recommendations to ensure that the rights of Mexican nationals in this country, including what he called "undocumented workers," are protected.

Mr. Morales, during a September speech in Washington D.C. to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEAO), said it was "Latino officials like yourselves that thousands of immigrants from Mexico find a political voice."

"We know you are among the first to pledge and to promote a humane treatment of all immigrants, regardless of their nationality or migratory status," he said. "Mexico will be better able to achieve its full potential by calling on all members of the Mexican Nation, including those who live abroad, to contribute with their talents, skills and resources."

To publicize their concerns, IME and coalition leaders have scheduled meetings this year with state and local government officials in this country to discuss, among other things, immigration issues. Others have begun to organize "get-out-the-vote" drives for the 2004 U.S. presidential election.

A delegation of Mexican governors met last month with IME and coalition officials in Los Angeles, and plan to follow up with similar meetings in Chicago, Dallas and San Antonio.

Thirty state legislators and mayors of Mexican descent from the United States took part in an institute meeting in October in Mexico City. During the two-day visit, the U.S. politicians met with officials from the Mexican Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Interior, as well as with Mexican deputies and senators, scholars and representatives from agencies that provide services to the migrant population.

The institute plans to bring more than 400 U.S. lawmakers and community leaders of Mexican descent to Mexico City by the end of this year.

At the October meeting, Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez acknowledged the work of locally elected U.S. Hispanic officials benefiting Mexicans and expressed thanks for the support by Hispanic representatives to the consular or "matricula" identification cards issued to Mexican nationals in this country.

The IME, relying on help from Mexican government officials, including Mr. Fox, led a successful fight last year for recognition by the U.S. Treasury Department of the matricula card, sending hundreds of e-mails to Mexican-American leaders in the United States to voice their support.

Responding to a resulting flood of e-mails, Treasury approved their use in September despite warnings by the Justice Department and the FBI that the cards were useful only for illegal aliens, since legal immigrants have U.S. government-issued documents.

Some 1.5 million digitally coded cards have been issued by Mexican consulates in the United States and are accepted by hundreds of localities, local agencies and banks across the nation. Mexican nationals in the United States send $14.5 billion home each year.
 
Rove has his abacus out, counting the potential votes.

Too bad most of 'em would be for Kerry. Going soft on illegal immigration--or should I say softer?--by Bush will be political seppuku. It's not too late for him to start listening to the American people on this one, not just to Republicans but to the 75% of Americans who oppose turning America into a refugee zone.
 
The Democrats are even worse than Bush, if that is possible. They are proposing automatic legal residency to illegal aliens.

Have you noticed so far in this very political year, that there is virtually no mention by any candidate on immigration and illegal aliens? The Bush administration has seemingly totally clammed up on the subject.
 
moa, as dense as the Bushies' advisors are on many issues, I think they're figuring out that conservative voters are against all this kowtowing to illegals. And the liberal voters who support the kowtowing aren't gonna vote Republican, anyway.

My own personal opinion is, and has been for many years, that if the U.S. weren't Mexico's safety valve as a place for their unemployed to run to, there would have been a horrendous uprising and revolution a number of years ago. It's probably a worse situation down there now, given the rate of growth in the population is far ahead of the rate of growth of jobs.

Art
 
It is not just conservative voters are against legalizing proposals for illegals. Every poll I have seen is overwhelmingly against such proposals.

The problem is the "elites" in government and business don't get it.
 
I sometimes think we should have invaded Mexico instead of Iraq. Lets see they have oil, solves a lot of immediate problems like illegals and such, and gives our useless bureaucrats years of paperwork to fill out. Sounds like a win, win situation to me.....got to be a fly in this ointment:eek:
 
My own personal opinion is, and has been for many years, that if the U.S. weren't Mexico's safety valve as a place for their unemployed to run to, there would have been a horrendous uprising and revolution a number of years ago.
Yep! and one of the reasons we haven't shut down illegal immigration is because the country will eventually come apart. I think the best way to force reform inside Mexico is to cork the bottle. Let social pressures build up to the point the ruling class either fixes its mess or it dies. Revolutions are messy and ugly regardless of what side of the border on which it occurs.

Problem right now is I and others have a picture of Bush sitting at a table taking his orders from Fox. There is no explanation as to why Bush will even return the baffoon's phone calls. What is Bush angling for? Access to the 8 x 10 color glossiies Fox took of that night in Tijuana? Not likely. Is it because Bush is trying to cut an oil deal to effectivel make Mexico the 51st state? Why is Bush listening to the socialist claptrap Fox is spewing about services, medical care, social security?

There is no known political or personal reason that I know of which explains why Bush rolls over on his back and wags his tail while Fox scratches his belly.

Said it before, I'll say it now, and will say it again in the future. Bush is about to screw the pooch if he is perceived as sucking up to Fox in order to give away our goodie store.
 
Screw Mexico and Fox. If they're unhappy about the sewer that is their country, then they should fix it, not run to us for help. We should have our military patrolling that border. If illegal immigrants were shot on sight, there would be a lot fewer of them.
 
Invade Mexico? Yeah, that's inevitable; of course by the time that happens a lot of that "Mexico" will be what we now call the Southwest United States.

I'm still waiting for Bush to grow a pair and demand that Mexico extradite the hordes of escaped murderers who have used Mejico as a sanctuary. And that shouldn't be a bargaining chip, just a DEMAND prior to any other conversation.

Bush's infatuation with V. Fox is a curiosity, that's for sure, and not immediately comprehensible. I ascribe it to the fact that Bush's family, through his two brothers, contains former Mexican nationals. Let's not forget the power of blood.
 
So these Mexicans have Mexcian citizenship but work in the US and send their money back to Mexico so that it helps the Mexican ecomony. They get free health care and other benefits too while in the US. Wow sounds like a parasite to me. And how do these illegals help the US economy like the stupid Liberals say they do? They can't even speak English and have no incentive too. Every Mexican i've met so far don't speak a word of it. Next time i'm going to call the INS on them and get them deported. Fact, Mexico's second largest source of income is from money sent back from illegals working in the US.

The US uses the military to guard Iraq's borders but not a single soldier guards ours. I say build a wall like the Israelis are doing.
 
This article has been posted before however worth a second look.!!!

Richard D. Lamm, former governor of Colorado, writes this article on immigration, in which he lists five grave concerns about the United States continuing it present immigration trend. Lamm is director of the Center for Public Policy and Contemporary Issues at the University of Denver. The article appeared on the website of the Rocky Mountain News.

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On Immigration

Should illegal aliens have driver's licenses, amnesty, welfare, and the right to move their families to the U.S.? Illegal aliens are, as is often pointed out, ''good, hard-working people who just want the American dream.'' But is that the end of the argument?

The trouble with that level of analysis is that there are billions of ''good, hard-working people'' and their dependents in the world who would love to come here, and obviously we can't take them all. We are also a nation of laws, with our own unemployed and underemployed, and our nation needs to come to some enforceable consensus on what our policy should be on people entering the country illegally.

Polls show that more than 70 percent of Americans object to illegal immigration, and we run a serious risk of a backlash against all immigrants if we don't reach some consensus on this issue. Polls also show that there is no issue in America where there is a bigger gap between public opinion and opinions of the media and other ''elites.''

Reasoned dialogue is rare and issues of immense importance to America's future are not being discussed or even debated.

Public policy requires us to be wise enough to appreciate cumulative effects. We already have approximately 10 percent of all Mexico living in the U.S. either legally or illegally. We owe it to the future to have a candid debate on the demographic impact of a mass migration of this magnitude. Consider:

1. We are a nation built on law. It almost sounds old-fashioned in contemporary America to ask that people obey the law. But when we start deciding which laws to obey and which to ignore, we start down a dangerous path. There are millions of potential immigrants patiently waiting in their home countries to immigrate here, playing by our rules. Illegal immigrants ''jump the line.''

2. As every house needs a door, every country needs a border. By turning a blind eye toward illegal immigration, we are encouraging countless numbers of these people to attempt to sneak into America. I spent a night with the Border Patrol in California, and was amazed to find people from India, Bangladesh, Iran, Egypt, Africa and China among the people detained.

3. Illegal immigration hurts America's poor. Illegal immigrants compete for the jobs our own poor need to start to move up the economic ladder. A study by The Center for Immigration Studies finds: ''Mexican immigration is overwhelmingly unskilled, and it is hard to find an economic argument for unskilled immigration, because it tends to reduce wages for (U.S.) workers.'' The study goes on: ''Because the American economy offers very limited opportunities for workers with little education, continued unskilled immigration can't help but to significantly increase the size of the poor and uninsured populations, as well as the number of people on welfare.''

4. We are told that illegal immigration is ''cheap labor,'' but it is not ''cheap labor,'' it is subsidized labor. The National Academy of Sciences has found that there is a significant fiscal drain on U.S. taxpayers for each adult immigrant without a high school education. Illegal immigration is something that benefits a few employers, but the rest of us subsidize that labor through the school system, the health-care system, the courts and in other ways that this form of labor imposes. With school spending of more than $7,000 per student per year, even a small family costs far more than a low-wage family pays in taxes.

5. America is increasingly becoming, day by day, a bilingual country, yet there is not a bilingual country in the world that lives in peace with itself. No nation should blindly allow itself to become a bilingual-bicultural country. If it does, it invites generations of conflict, tension and antagonism. America has historically demanded that its immigrants be self-supporting and English-speaking to join our polity. We vary from that rule that made us '''one nation, indivisible''' at great risk to America's future. Today, when over 40 percent of today's massive wave of immigrants is from Spanish-speaking nations, people can move to America and keep their language, their culture and their old loyalties. If the melting pot doesn't melt, immigrants become ''foreigners'' living in America rather than assimilated Americans.

6. Our social fabric risks becoming undone. It is important to America's future that we look at how Mexican immigrants are doing. Too many of our Hispanic immigrants live in ethnic ghettos. Too many are unskilled laborers, too many are uneducated, too many live in poverty, too many are exploited, too many haven't finished ninth grade, too many drop out of school. The Center for Immigration Studies issued a report last year, which found: ''Almost two-thirds of adult Mexican immigrants have not completed high school, compared to fewer than one in 10 natives not completing high school. Mexican immigrants now account for 22 percent of all high school dropouts in the labor force.''

But what is most disturbing is that second and third generations don't do much better. Again, the study from The Center for Immigration Studies: ''The lower educational attainment of Mexican immigrants appears to persist across the generations.'' A recent report from the center shows that two-thirds of Mexican immigrant workers lack even a high school education; as a consequence, two-thirds of Mexican immigrant families live in or near poverty. The question has to be asked: By tolerating illegal immigration are we laying the foundations for a new Hispanic underclass? A Hispanic Quebec?
 
I like immigrants, but it's the same thing for houseguests. Y'all can come, but come in through the front door, not the bathroom window, will ya? :banghead:
 
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