Michigan Saftey Check Over?

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Saw this over at Michigan Gun Owners

Confirmed via NRA: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4086


Michigan: Governor Signs Important Pro-Gun Package!

Friday, July 11, 2008

On Thursday July 10, Governor Jennifer Granholm (D) signed into law the Post-Purchase "Safety Inspection" Repeal Package.
These important bills, Senate Bill 370 and House Bills 4490 and 4491, will remove the cumbersome post-purchase “safety inspection” on handguns and will go into immediate effect. The requirement of a safety inspection was a burdensome waste of time for law-abiding gun owners and these bills will address that inconvenience.
Thank you to all NRA members who answered the call to help enact this legislation. Without you, this victory would not have been possible
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Before you post please keep in mind how long it took us to do this and getting rid of registration WILL take time so please simmer down at celebrate this win! Party like a rockstar! :D
 
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So is this now law? When does it take effect? I've been holding off on my next purchase until this got passed (hopefully).

WOOHOO!!! :) :) The end of this government registration scheme is long overdue!!!!
 
The so-called "safety check" is over, but the registration remains:

Sec. 2a. (1) An individual who is licensed under section 5b to carry a concealed pistol is not required to obtain a license under section 2 to purchase, carry, possess, or transport a pistol.

(2) If an individual licensed under section 5b purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, the seller shall complete a record in quadruplicate on a form provided by the department of state police. The record shall include the purchaser's concealed weapon license number. The purchaser shall sign the record. The seller may retain 1 copy of the record. The purchaser shall receive 3 copies of the record and forward 2 copies to the police department of the city, village, or township in which the purchaser resides, or, if the purchaser does not reside in a city, village, or township having a police department, to the county sheriff, within 10 days following the purchase or acquisition. The return of the copies to the police department or county sheriff may be made in person or may be made by first-class mail or certified mail sent within the 10-day period to the proper address of the police department or county sheriff. A purchaser who fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be fined not more than $250.00. If a purchaser is found responsible for a state civil infraction under this subsection, the court shall notify the department of state police and the concealed weapon licensing board that issued the license of that determination.

(3) Within 48 hours after receiving the record copies returned under subsection (2), the police department or county sheriff shall forward 1 copy of the record to the department of state police. The police department or county sheriff shall retain the other copy of the record as an official record for not less than 6 years. Within 10 days after receiving the record copies returned under subsection (2), the police department or county sheriff shall electronically enter the information into the pistol entry database as required by the department of state police if it has the ability to electronically enter that information. If the police department or county sheriff does not have that ability, the police department or county sheriff shall provide that information to the department of state police in a manner otherwise required by the department of state police. Any police department or county sheriff that provided pistol descriptions to the department of state police under former section 9 of this act shall continue to provide pistol descriptions to the department of state police under this subsection. The purchaser has the right to obtain a copy of the information placed in the pistol entry database under this subsection to verify the accuracy of that information. The police department or county sheriff may charge a fee not to exceed $1.00 for the cost of providing the copy. The purchaser may carry, use, possess, and transport the pistol for 30 days beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of the record. However, the person is not required to have the record in his or her possession while carrying, using, possessing, or transporting the pistol after this period.
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For some reason I fail to see why the NRA listed this:

MICHIGAN: Governor Signs Important Pro-Gun Package!

The way I understood the old law was that there was actually no 10 day
time limit (it wasn't written anywhere in the old law) to complete the safety
inspection and that was the time when the pistol was actually entered into
the state's computer. So, bravo, Michigan's little non-registration loophole
has been closed.
 
Thanks for posting this. I knew it was proposed, but didn't know it had passed.

Unfortunately, I don't think is any real improvement. The bill originally proposed had completely eliminated any registration requirement and purged all existing databases of registration. This doesn't do any of that.

As I read these, basically the requirement to have a safety inspection is gone, but you still have to register each pistol purchased. You can make that registration by mail or in-person, though obviously mail is easier (definitely use certified!).

In addition, there's a new requirement that in the first 30 days after purchase, you must carry the sale record whenever you possess the pistol, even with a CPL. After 30 days that requirement ends. To me the practical effect is that I will just transport the pistol home (with record) and let it season for 30 days before using it otherwise.

It isn't clear to me when this takes effect. It was given "immediate effect," which usually means just that, but the bills say they take effect in 180 days. I think that they will actually take effect in 180 days, but would like clarification if anyone is positive.
 
The "Safety Check" was nothing more than Registration anyways. All they did was change the law to call it what it is.
 
Yes you still need the permit to purchase but the saftey is a big waste of time and needed to go, I should also note that if you have a CCW after 05 you don't need a permit to purchase.
 
OK, the safety check is gone. It was never meaningful, it was just a euphemism for registration. So, that's good. And now you can register via mail. Great.

But they added a silly new requirement that for 30 days after purchase, you MUST possess the record of sale or else be in violation. This is new, and negative. This will have ZERO effect on criminals, but be a new hassle for law abiding owners. It's a small negative, but negative nonetheless.

Put simply, the original intent of the change was completely gutted.
 
Damn! Here I got all excited thinking we actually had a pro-gun bill passed here. Instead, we're still registered. I hate the government! Criminals still won't register their firearms, and law abiding citizens still won't commit crimes. :banghead::cuss::fire:

The whole point of removing the "safety inspection" was removing registration, and all it sounds like we've accomplished is re-naming registration as "registration". Worthless garbage not worth the paper it's written on, just like 99% of all other work of the government.
 
Gunnerpalace, it still remains that handguns in MI must be registered with
the gov't. This is in not a "pro-gun package" victory. I was skeptical when
I considered who the MI governor was and it took about 5 minutes worth
of research to confirm it. I guess the NRA didn't read what she had signed
before they popped the corks and sent out their own press release?
 
I take it you guys still want the safety inspection around?
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Some of the posters here are very short sighted.
No, this was not an end-all-be-all bill, but it was a step in the right direction, and it was much better than the old status-quo.

It used to take me two trips down to the oakland county sheriff to buy a gun, now it would be down to one. Hopefully in the future it goes to zero.

for those who dont understand the importance of this:

BEFORE:
1. Registration
2. Safety Inspection (waste of time, pain in the ass)

AFTER;
1. Registration ONLY

*** See, one of the steps above went away. ***

There still remains the step of removing the registration and the permission slip, but I suspect the lawmakers want to keep the intimidation of permission permits in place so as per Jim Crow: the darkies in Detroit dont legally buy too many guns. We all know that blacks with guns scare whites in the suburbs.

-T
 
I think the ONLY benefit from this is that you can mail in your registration. That means you don't have to take time off work, when all police and sheriff's records departments seem to be open only from 9am-4:30pm M-F. I do wonder if the original inspection requirement was designed to make it hard for blue collar workers to buy handguns.

And I think the new requirement to carry the proof of purchase for your first 30 days of handgun ownership is (1) incredibly pointless, and (2) a new trap for the unwary. Imagine how many people will buy a gun and then the following weekend take it to the range. Imagine how few of those people will take the paperwork for the gun with them. Now the penalty is only a civil infraction, but that's still money out of your pocket, and could be bad for renewing your CPL.
 
I do wonder if the original inspection requirement was designed to make it hard for blue collar workers to buy handguns.
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My understanding is that they're in place to intimidate blacks.

-T
 
Tyris, do you have any Michigan connection? I realize that what you're saying is a reasonable assumption given the history of race relations, but if you've ever lived in metro Detroit, there is a LOT more going on than just racial issues.
 
Yes this is the real deal, we have been working on getting rid of the "Green Card AKA Safety Inspection" for some time now. N yes it was originally instituted to stop blacks from buying hand guns.
 
I just purchased a pistol on July 2nd in Grand Rapids, and the "Safety Check" involved leaving my S&W locked up in a case at the front desk and proceeding back to be registered.
 
It is amazing how these laws get passed and although they are seen as winners, they accomplish the same thing as the old law, just in a different way of doing it. Well at least I will not have to waist my lunch hour going to the PD to safety inspect.
 
I think Tyris is referring to the origin of the safety inspection law in Michigan. I like being stationed here, I love snow, but the silly laws about handguns need to go. This is a step in the right direction though.
 
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