Microstamping On Governors Desk!

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Where did you hear that the gun makers will not sell to Kali in the event
of the microstamp bill
 
The gun maker's have stated that they will stop selling handguns in California after 2010, when microstamping takes effect.
If only they would also stop selling them to Kali-LEO's as well.
 
Everyone is kinda freaking out about this but the real bottom is, it was
and is really not about fighting crime so much as it is about making it really hard
to and frustrating to purchase a firearm here in Ca that people will
be discouraged from doing so.

Az is next. Wait and see.

10 years ago I said that Ca was working on backdoor ways to make firearms
obsolete here. The people up in Sac couldn't come right out with a firearm
ban, but they could sure bring bills forth that could geld the heck out of
buying and owning em..Think this is bad, wait until the WH falls to the Dems
in 08 and Schumer or so is the next Atty Gen.

Sorry to off topic and I suppose I may have broke the new rules here, but
wasn't intending to.
 
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The gun maker's have stated that they will stop selling handguns in California after 2010, when microstamping takes effect.

They stated they will stop selling ALL handguns, even revolvers, single-shots?
 
Next, they'll find a way to ban revolvers

Well revolvers should be banned since they don't leave evidence behind at all.

That will be introduced next legislative session.......

You Californians sleep safe tonight, your state is watching out for you.
 
use your free weekend minutes

Although Arnold has voiced his intent to sign the bill, I think we should all continue to call his office and vote. We should not go down without a fight. Moreover, we can make use of our weekend/night minutes offered by our cell companies.

Although this only currently affects CA, it is only a matter of time before other states begin to consider it. Please call!!!
 
LEO's are not totally exempt from buying guns that are not on the list. They must have a letter from their sheriff or chief stating the weapon is for official usage and not for personal usage.


The gun manufactures will not stop selling guns to California. They'll just keep selling the ones that are currently on the list. California is a huge market for firearms and firearm related items. It's the fifth (somewhere around there) economy in the world. Like it or not, they cannot ignore that type of a market. It could be the difference between turning a profit and putting their company into bankruptcy. They'll just adapt the way the auto industry had to when Cal passed it's stringent smog laws. They raised prices to cover the cost of additional smog equipment. The gun industry will simply do the same.
 
LEO's are not totally exempt from buying guns that are not on the list. They must have a letter from their sheriff or chief stating the weapon is for official usage and not for personal usage.
Used to be true - changed this March:
Policy Change Regarding State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers

Effective immediately, peace officers who have legislative authority to carry and use firearms may, without a letter signed by the head of their agency or the agency head's designee, purchase non-rostered handguns and/or large capacity magazines. The peace officer must present a valid peace officer identification card and the dealer must retain a copy of the identification card on file. (PC 12132 & 12133). A letter is still required from the head of the agency to exempt the peace officer from the ten day waiting period. (PC 12078).
 
Can peace officers still buy CA 'assault weapons' for personal use?

Just asking
 
Can peace officers still buy CA 'assault weapons' for personal use?
Appears so - PC 12280
(e) Subdivisions (a), (b), and (c) shall not apply to the sale to,
purchase by, importation of, or possession of assault weapons or a .
50 BMG rifle by the Department of Justice, police departments,
sheriffs' offices, marshals' offices, the Department of Corrections
and Rehabilitation, the Department of the California Highway Patrol,
district attorneys' offices, Department of Fish and Game, Department
of Parks and Recreation, or the military or naval forces of this
state or of the United States, or any federal law enforcement agency
for use in the discharge of their official duties.
(f) (1) Subdivisions (b) and (c) shall not prohibit the possession
or use of assault weapons or a .50 BMG rifle by sworn peace officer
members of those agencies specified in subdivision (e) for law
enforcement purposes, whether on or off duty.
(2) Subdivisions (a), (b), and (c) shall not prohibit the
delivery, transfer, or sale of an assault weapon or a .50 BMG rifle
to, or the possession of an assault weapon or a .50 BMG rifle by, a
sworn peace officer member of an agency specified in subdivision (e)
if the peace officer is authorized by his or her employer to possess
or receive the assault weapon or the .50 BMG rifle. Required
authorization is defined as verifiable written certification from the
head of the agency, identifying the recipient or possessor of the
assault weapon as a peace officer and authorizing him or her to
receive or possess the specific assault weapon.
Target practice is arguably improving needed job skills - "for law enforcement purposes"; if an officer can get the letter, s/he can buy the gun.
 
Quote:
Policy Change Regarding State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers

Effective immediately, peace officers who have legislative authority to carry and use firearms may, without a letter signed by the head of their agency or the agency head's designee, purchase non-rostered handguns and/or large capacity magazines. The peace officer must present a valid peace officer identification card and the dealer must retain a copy of the identification card on file. (PC 12132 & 12133). A letter is still required from the head of the agency to exempt the peace officer from the ten day waiting period. (PC 12078).

That figures.
 
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