Militia Rifles – a modest proposal

[ATW525]

It seems most posters are missing the point.

It doesn’t matter what the sheeple think, if the courts buy it.

A “militia rifle” is the one weapon that is certainly covered by the 2A, under the militia clause.

For that reason, I would expect the antis to fight tooth and nail to prevent EBRs being seen as militia rifles. But that would be difficult to do, without positively specifying what a militia rifle is. This would put them in a very awkward, defensive position – they would need to identify SOMETHING as an appropriate militia arm, in order to say that an AR is not.
The ensuing argument would propagate the idea that the 2A is still in effect, and that it definitely covers SOME weapons; both of which ideas, if commonly accepted, are beneficial to our side.

The position of the anti-gunners is that the National Guard is the militia. It wouldn't be difficult at all for them to positively specify that a "militia rifle" is one issued by Uncle Sam to the National Guard. They will then claim that civillian so-called "militia rifles" are implements of death marketed to neo-nazi wackos who like to blow up Federal Buildings.

 

[Declaration Day]

I agree, "Militia Rifle" is NOT the way to go. The word "Militia" has been thoroughly demonized and we aren't going to get it back anytime soon.

Unfortunately, you are right. At least some of us are trying to change that.

Please take the time to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXmumvgt68

I am a proud member of this group.

And I have no idea what the fixation with vegetarians is, but I got a good laugh out of it.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

General Purpose

I have in my safe a number of General Purpose Rifles which I also sometimes call Utility Rifles.

The beauty of a general purpose rifle is that it will defend the home, defend the community, feed the family, and provide recreation.

A utility rifle is quite useful to have around. It provides a good platform for introduction and teaching of firearms, varmint control, and protection from the various and sundry threats that intrude occasionally into our otherwise productive lives.

A good general purpose rifle should be light enough to carry, compact enough to store in a vehicle, easily aimed, ergonomically friendly so as to reduce repetitive stress and improve accuracy. It should be quick to load and easily unloaded for transport.

As with any tool, the utility rifle may be required to fulfill any of a variety of tasks and may thus be chambered in a variety of calibres depending on the duty at hand. One might easily have a .22 calibre utility rifle for target practice and training, a .223 or .357 calibre for varmints and general defense, something in a .30 or .44 calibre for hunting tasks.

Since not all applications will involve an outdoors venue, a useful utility rifle might need to be shorter and/or have a folding stock for such needs as home defense.

Yes, like any assortment of tools needed to perform the various jobs that come up, a good assortment of high-quality general purpose and utility rifles is a must for the responsible homeowner or citizen at large.

 

[glummer]

The position of the anti-gunners is that the National Guard is the militia. It wouldn't be difficult at all for them to positively specify that a "militia rifle" is one issued by Uncle Sam to the National Guard.

And, having specified that the official rifle for the Guard (organized militia) is a full selective-fire assault rifle, what will be their position in court when someone calls for the same for the equally legal unorganized militia? They will have to specify something, or accept someone else's opinion. If we have established "militia rifle" as a 'term of art', referring to semi-auto ARs and the like, that would be the likely default choice.
(Claims about neo-Nazi wackos have no significance in court.)
If we get the Brady Bunch arguing about what a real militia rifle is, we are shifting the battle to our benefit.

 

[45crittergitter]

Constitutional Rifle?

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I think trying to out-logic the antis, while certainly noble, and possible, is a waste of time. They don't care how logical your argument is. So trapping them in a "define a militia" rifle argument isn't really going to do much.

If these people could be reasoned with, the mountains of data showing crime rates dropping in shall carry states, and the plain text of "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", would have already done the job and settled these arguments long ago. The fact that we are still arguing with the antis shows that no amount of arguing is really going to convince them to use rational thought.

 

[wooderson]

You're never going to win the semantic argument - 'assault rifle' is the term of the realm. Better to just call them rifles - clearly, 'no different from grandpa's hunting rifle' - and be done with it.

 

[P5 Guy]

I know that this is a serious thread but, I do not care what the media elites think because they do not care what we think. We are wrong and they know what is best for all us citizens.
So, call the spade a spade, forget PC speak. It is a TYRANT ELIMINATION WEAPON.
I'm proud to be a gun owner and one of 80 million.
P5

 

[Autolycus]

Decleration Day:

Check out the file footage from this link to the other one you posted.

 

[Molon Labe]

Not to mention "militia" already conjures "paranoid rednecks" in many peoples minds.

I agree. And I'm one of those "militia guys."

Today's militias are nothing like the militias of the1990's (thank God). We're more mature, professional, and lawful. Take me, for example... I'm in the process of getting may MS in electrical engineering. And I started a militia group.