skeeterfogger
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Given all that data tell me which you want to be shot by.
I think that we all know that a 1 3/4” mini shoot she’ll will not have the same payload as a 2 3/4” shot shell. And a 410 will not be able to push the same payload as a mini shoot shell at the same velocity.Size of the shell has nothing to do with the ability of the payload. If it is moving birdshot or buckshot at 1200 or faster, it will do the same damage as a 2-3/4" shell with the same payload and velocity.
It’s not about what we would want to be shot with. Kind of a silly question, because who wants to be shot.Given all that data tell me which you want to be shot by.
I think that we all know that a 1 3/4” mini shoot she’ll will not have the same payload as a 2 3/4” shot shell. And a 410 will not be able to push the same payload as a mini shoot shell at the same velocity.
I’ve shot the mini shoot shells, buck and slugs, in my Tac-14. Both had mild recoil, but still tore up the stump I was shooting. The buckshot pattered great at 10 yards. I also shot 2 3/4” buckshot, reduces recoil and standard loads. They both did great but were harder to handle and not easy to shoot fast.
With the mini shells the gun holds more rounds and can be shot faster with better handling.
It’s not about what we would want to be shot with. Kind of a silly question, because who wants to be shot.
Mini shells are great for close range and for home defense.
They work great in most pumps, but I’ve never seen them work in a auto.
I think that we all know that a 1 3/4” mini shoot she’ll will not have the same payload as a 2 3/4” shot shell. And a 410 will not be able to push the same payload as a mini shoot shell at the same velocity.
I’ve shot the mini shoot shells, buck and slugs, in my Tac-14. Both had mild recoil, but still tore up the stump I was shooting. The buckshot pattered great at 10 yards. I also shot 2 3/4” buckshot, reduces recoil and standard loads. They both did great but were harder to handle and not easy to shoot fast.
With the mini shells the gun holds more rounds and can be shot faster with better handling.
It’s not about what we would want to be shot with. Kind of a silly question, because who wants to be shot.
Mini shells are great for close range and for home defense.
They work great in most pumps, but I’ve never seen them work in a auto.
But this topic is not about recoil. It’s about the mini shot shell. The OP was wondering if they would work in a Mossberg 930.Why would you say that? I reload a 2-3/4" 12 gauge with 3/4oz of 8.5s; there are factory loadings in 7/8oz; again, it's the payload and velocity (if gun weight is the same) that will determine recoil; not the length of the shell.
I would still prefer a 12 gage with mini shells over a Judge, because I’ll have more rounds and throw more lead per shot.That's the point. You can play apples and oranges all day. Who or what you use either on is not going like it. The options for using the mini in a shotgun was mod the gun. The option on the judge is 45lc or 410. Seems simple enough given noone and nothing will like being the recipient.
I would still prefer a 12 gage with mini shells over a Judge, because I’ll have more rounds and throw more lead per shot.
Just out of curiosity, is a mini shell a little bit quieter than a a full size(2 3/4) shot shell. Not talking about self defense. Talking about 8s, 7 1/2s, 6s, 4s, etc. If they even make minis with those shot sizes. Have a 12g double coach gun that would be fun for pest control. I have been considering inserts but minis might serve the purpose. Don't really need all the thunder of even a less recoil twelve to dispatch a feral or egg stealer.
Very little noise, sort of a hollow "pop". Zero recoil.
How many topics have come up over the years about home defense ammo? How many people were looking for ammo that didn’t shoot through several walls in there house.Mini shells = Current Fad. Don't see any use or need for them. Unless you are recoil sensitive.
As I said in my previous post:
Honestly, they aren't much louder than a 22. Maybe around 22 WMR levels. Unfortunately, they only come in #7.5 shot, buckshot, and slugs as far as I know. The other shot sizes aren't available as far as I'm aware. They work well enough on fruit-stealing birds, but I'd not want to try them on anything larger. For egg stealing varmints, ferals, and other miscellaneous things that go bump in the night, I would suggest leaving the (assumed) open-choked coach gun on the rack using either a .22 or a full-choked gun and full power loads. I just don't think I'd trust the #7.5 shot for anything larger than blackbirds; perhaps the buckshot would be ok for the larger critters. You might buy a box of each, pattern them at the distance you think you'd use them, and then make a decision based on that information. For what I was doing they worked just fine, but as always, YMMV and all that jazz...
Mac
Mini shells = Current Fad. Don't see any use or need for them. Unless you are recoil sensitive.
The true purpose of shorter shells is use in upland guns when black bear, coyote, hog ,....become a threat during small game hunt. Loose ten pack in pocket does not weigh much and recoil is manageable in light game guns.
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