Missouri bullet for use in 45ACP/45Colt?

[Paraglider]

Howdy,

Wondering if anyone has a favorite Missouri Bullet Company bullet that works well in both the 45 ACP and 45 Colt? I'm looking at the 250 RNFP listed under 45ACP; wondering if that might load well in the 45 Colt?

I have a Remington R1 1911 and am aquiring a Ruger Bisley 45 Colt/45 ACP combo gun. Would like to find one cast bullet I can use in either gun.

Thanks!

John

 

[1KPerDay]

Welcome to THR, John.

There are published loads that use 250s in the ACP and 230s in the .45 Colt. There may be some issues with cycling in the .45 ACP.

See here while you're waiting for more replies.
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79661

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/reloading-range-reports/37830-45-230-grain-loads.html

Personally I'd go with the 230 grain "softball" or 250-grain "pinbusters" for .45 ACP from MBC and then use either to work up a load in .45 Colt. I'm assuming you shoot the 1911 more than the revolver. If you shoot the revolver more, maybe favor the 250 Cowboy #1 (which to me looks identical to the "pinbusters", just in a softer alloy) and then make them work in your Remington.

 

[Notoast]

Find a bullet that you can get to work with your 1911 and it will work with the revolver. I've loaded and shot the 200 LSWC, 255 Elmer K and 230 Softball out of my Bisley in 45 Colt, but my 1911 won't reliably feed a SWC profile bullet; no problem with the Softball.

 

[Drail]

I have been loading the 200 gr RNFP for use in revolver and 1911 and they work very well. While the 250 gr. RNFP bullets will feed in my 1911s some guns won't feed and chamber them 100%. Good choice on the Bisley - you will love it!

 

[CatManDo]

What Drail said above. Very good choice.

 

[LeftyTSGC]

I use the MB 250gr #1 LRNFP Cowboy bullets for .45LC

The main difference is the brinell hardness, the .45LC are the softer 12 brinell and the 45 acp are made with brinell 18 which is a harder bullet.

Just understand the differences when using different barrels and the effects of each type of bullet.

 

[SDGlock23]

The Missouri 250gr RNFP will feed fine in a .45 so long as you seat it to the OAL your gun will chamber. I've shot the 250gr RNFP out of my Glocks even, with good success, the OAL was a little short, but it worked very well.

 

[il.bill]

I have been loading the 200 gr RNFP for use in revolver and 1911 and they work very well. ...!

I use the same Missouri Bullet Cowboy #4(452200CB) in .45 ACP over 4.8-5.0 grains of Bullseye in my Ruger Blackhawk (I do need to clean the lead out of the forcing cone after a while) and like them a lot. My buddy tried them in his Remington R1 1911 - they worked fine, the pistol cycled and the magazine emptied with no problems.

 

[BCRider]

I'd also suggest the 200 gn RNFP option just for the cost saving. That is unless you actually NEED the added mass of the 250gn pin busters for your sort of shooting.

I've also been loading up a 200 LRNFP "revolver" bullet for my 1911. The first batch worked like a charm but I ran into issues with the second batch. I offer the following story so you and others can avoid the same issue.

Seems that my die set included a taper crimp seating/crimping die that was closing up the flare before the mouth of the casing was fully into the cannelure groove. As a result lead was being plowed ahead and formed a false mouth rim. This prevented the cartridge from seating fully and held the slide out of battery.

So now I've got something like 250 to 300 rounds of ammo that are waiting for my lathe to get set up again so I can make a special little "lead trimmer" to remove that ring.

I've since gotten a second set of dies with a regular roll crimper that works great with the lead bullets.

Of course the answer is to go with separate seating and crimping operations which I'll be able to do soon thanks to un-earthing my Dillon 550 recently from the garage.

 

[Mtnflyer]

Thanks for the tips, 1K !

 

[Paraglider]

OOPs used my other handle to reply... Thanks everyone for the good points and ideas. This gives me a direction to go- I can now order up some lead.

Thanks again!

 

[Riomouse911]

A few years back I could not find 250 gr 45 Colt SWC bullets in my area, and I ended up buying a box of 500 230 gr .451 LRN marketed for the .45 ACP. They worked perfectly over Unique in a .45 Colt Vaquero and .454 Super Redhawk. A plus: they drop right into the cylinders, no hang up or fiddling about like a SWC in the loading gate of a single action. HOWEVER: if you're loading for a rifle, I would not use them, as the tip of the RNL bullet does rest on the primer of the round in front.

Since they are "ACP" bullets, they should work just fine in the 1911, too.

Like any real change in components or loads; make up a few to try out before loading 500, in case your particular guns do not like them at all.