Mitchell's Mausers

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has anyone dealt with this company? I see their ads all the time and was thinking about picking up one of their WWII rebuild mausers. I checked out their website but was disappointed that I could not find any pics of their "service grade" rifles. Only pics were of the "collector grade" ones.

I was also disappointed that I couldn't find an email contact link on their website, or maybe I just missed it. I was checking out the site very late last night and I was tired. When you go to the Contact Us page, it is only phone #s, not any email links. That seems so "80's".
 
I think they are overpriced and are usually selling Yugo's that you could get elsewhere for much less.

I feel bad since my Father in Law and Brother in Law bought a pair from them thinking they were getting something special. They didn't ask me about it so paid something like $400 each for nice Yugo's. They could have gotten them for less than 1/2 of that.

I would stay away myself.
 
wow, thanks. I've been hanging around this forum for a while, but haven't come across a mitchell hate thread since I've been here. Good to know though.

I will keep an eye out at the monthly Saxet gun show for mausers. Don't know much about them (mausers that is). Will have to buy a book or research the web before the next show (next weekend).
 
For an education on the K98k, start here:

http://p198.ezboard.com/bk98kpage


These guys are a great wealth of information.


Also, pick up the book "Backbone of the Wehrmacht" by Richard D. Law. This is known as the 'gospel' regarding the K98k.

This is one fantastic book.

He also has a companion book, "Backbone of the Wehrmacht, Volume II - Sniper Variations of the German K98k Rifles".
This book is also incredibly good.

Thanks for reading.
 
You know, you all can complain as much as you want about Mitchells but I personally think their rifles are a pretty good deal. I bought one and for the money I spent I couldn't have found one better. Pick one up at a gun show and its at least going to need a new barrell. The stock is going to be beat up so then there is that expense. By the time you are done you have spent more than the Mitchell cost. I love my gun. You can't buy a "new" rifle anywhere that is as accurate or as durable as a Mauser for $300 anytime. Bitch on:cuss:
 
When I was still a "mil-surp noob" I purchased one of those "K98 Mauser" that was actually a M48. Boy, did I feel dumb when I found out that I paid almost double it's going price. That said, it is the most accurate open sighted rifle I have ever shot. 50 yards, 5 shots, 1 hole. Nuff said.
 
After what Jackal said I realized that some people had mistaken the Mitchell ad to read WW2 rifle. By the time I bought mine it was obvious that I was buying a Yugo and I bought it as a Yugo. Its still a Mauser and shoots like one:neener:
 
everyone is saying that mitchells aren't worth $400, but that is the price of their "collector" grade, not their "service" grade, which is only $249.

I was not thinking of getting the $400 one, but a $249 one.

And they swear that the ones they have now are german, with all the german markings, so I don't know how they could be yugo or whatever, unless mitchells lies through their teeth...:confused:

edit: I was posting this before Red Label above posted his... so I did not see that post when I posted this. How can you mistake their ad for WWII? It says plain as day "Original German Mauser from WWII"
 
And they swear that the ones they have now are german, with all the german markings, so I don't know how they could be yugo or whatever, unless mitchells lies through their teeth...

They have both now. The German 98s are Russian captures that Mitchell has refinished. They also have Yugo 48s. But before they got the 98s their ads for the 48s were very dishonest.

If you want a good laugh check out what Mitchells is asking for refinished, mixmaster P38s and Lugers!
 
If you want a good laugh check out what Mitchells is asking for refinished, mixmaster P38s and Lugers!

I think we found a buyer - a satisfied MM customer:

You know, you all can complain as much as you want about Mitchells but I personally think their rifles are a pretty good deal.

http://www.mauser.org/autopistols/hist_p-08 luger/index.htm

http://www.mauser.org/autopistols/hist_p-38 walther/index.htm

How about some ammo to go with your rifle? You wouldn't want to use surplus in an MM rifle:

http://www.mauser.org/ammunition/index.htm
 
Back when Mitchell's started out, all they had were the M48s. They said something about "German Tooling" or something or other that left the impression you were getting German K98Ks, but didn't specifically *say* that these were German (nor did they say Yugo or M48). At the time, they were selling them for about $350. I had just bought an all matching, still in the cosmoline, brand-spankin' new M48 with all the goodies at Big-5 for $150 when I saw their ad. I had to laugh. I've never trusted them since, and have just ignored their ads. So, are they really selling legit GERMAN K98Ks now? I guess when you make as much off the consumers as they must have with the M48s, they can afford the real thing now....
 
My dad surprised me with a gift of a German K98 that he bought from them - it's a real German one all right. Mitchell's advertises in almost every issue of the American Legion magazine which is where I think he found them. I think Mitchell's wants $500 for a "collector's grade" K98, which is I think the 2nd best of 3 or 4 grades that they use. I like my K98, but had I known my dad was going to get me this, I might have tried to save him $ by finding a better price.
 
I found a Mitchel M48 at a gun show for $175 with the box and the little certificate ect ect. Knew exactly what I was buying. It was a good deal at the time considering what one of my local gunshops was selling them for.
 
redlabel, ya do know that the M48s ya get at the gunshow all already have new barrels don't ya? The M48 was totally rearsenaled in 1948, the rifles Mitchells sells are EXACTLY the same rifles ya will get at a gun show in their service grade except at the gunshow you will only pay $109 for it.

Their refinished rifles have ZERO as in absolutally no collector value because what Mitchells does is take that same gunshow rifle, remove the original stock and sand it to completally smooth removing all cartouch stampings and other historical markings they then restamp everything, the metal generally doesn't require any reblueing since they were already totally reblued in 1948 but in the event one does it gets a low quality hot dip blued that again ruins collectability, if there is any rust pitting it will be sanded out before reblueing........ non matched numbers? no problem they will restamp them all matching!

Mitchells mausers get their rifles that they start with from the exact same sellers that Century, Samco, Ten. guns, Interarms etc.. all get their rifles from there is absolutally no difference EXCEPT that Mitchells will refinish theres destroying its collectability, there TARGET customer is the uninformed newbie without the experience nor knowledge to know that refinishing a collectable rifle is a no-no.

I've bought several 48s off the shelves of various dealers as well as ordered myself directly from Century Tat are 100% in unissued / unfired condition, its not hard to do as they were rearsenaled, then stored and never got issued the Yugoslavs issued the SKS for their next battle rifle, no wars between 1948 and 1959 .............


Most folks who have since learned about Mitchells mausers are reluctant to ever admit they were once uninformed enough to get taken by them, I must applaud ya for being so willing to come forward even though your post above does show that you still have not learned anything about Milsurps (ya don't even know what kinda shape the barrels/ stocks really are in under the cosmoline on them gunshow m48s this points to a lack of experience with actually handling any other rifles besides the overpriced and now worthless Mitchell) but still to step forward even if only in an attempt to not feel so bad about paying as much as 3 times too much for that m48 is applaudable friend, if ya ever get to a point ya really wanna know just how badly ya were taken in buying that refinished now non-collectable mauser just got to the WTS section of gunboards.com there are a couple on there one guy has been trying to sell for about a month for LESS than he paid via Mitchells mausers... it has no value and is unsaleble unless ya find someone evel less knowledgable to unload em on.... a site dedicated to collectors with several thousand online at any given hour and can't even get less outa it...... but some of those $109 gunshow mausers with their shiny new barrels.... they have sold for up to 3 times the purchase price.... why? the buyer knew what to look for when buying and then DID NOT REFINISH IT, he will only remove the Cosmoline with as little effect to the wood or metal as possible....... don't even mention sand paper or boiled linseed oil around real collectors ya could caue em to have a stroke :neener:
 
xsquid, ya might wanna post the info on your "authentic" german mauser on the m
K98 Mauser forum of gunboards.com and see what ya actually got, latelly there has been alot of people showing up who bought these then took em to a actual collectable rifle appraiser only to find their rifles are counterfitted in that Mitchells has taken a basic German "Russian captured" mauser, had it totally refinished (bolt, mag floor plate etc.. must be restamped to match as the russians just stripped these rifles down dumped the variouse parts into bins, cleaned everything then re-assembled the rifles from the bins without searching for correct numbers etc..) after Michells gets em all back to being "all matching" they then polish the metal to removed the raised stamings humped up metal, which also removes arsenal stampings etc.. so then they restamp all of this... they simply stamp whatever letter codes are selling best and then hot dip reblue, ALOT of folks are discovering that they actually have an $150 shooter because of all the Mitchells mausers reworking etc...

If ya post good high res Macro pics any of the collectors on there will be able to tell ya instantly if its a counterfit or not. the only thing for sure is that it was a german issued mauser but then these were made much like the AKm47 of the coldwar.... by all of the german allies, if yours is indeed stamped as made Oberndorf then its at least made in Germany, if ya read the wording on the Mitchel certificate like ya were a lawyer ya will find its very carefully worded to escape any fraud charges. As are their ads these days.
 
Let's be serious here - except for special variants such as a "sniper model" the average mauser WWII type rifle has as much collectability value in terms of dollars as an average MN 91-30 - which is why Big 5 sells 'em so cheap. If you want to bitch about an overpriced product then let's talk 03's - at least $500 to buy in nowadays climbing to $1000. The market sets the price not what you tell your wife about the "great deal" I got at Big 5. Mitchells takes an average mauser rifle and produces a more marketable item to a certain segment of the market - if more people buy it to get into shooting and collecting then it is good for all of us. The real issue is not the product or price thereof but how it is being marketed in terms of a more valuable rifle as it is more "collectable". I wish MM would just tell the consumer they are taking the rifles and making them into a more cosmetically attractive product not more collectable.
 
Hmm, now I wonder. I looked over on gunboards.com and Mitchell's rep is pretty bad according to those posters, too.

Well, let's see if I can handle the truth... the receiver is stamped/marked with a "42", which I saw on surplusrifleforum.com means "Mauser Werke A.G., Oberndorf-am-Neckar. Lubeck, Germany. Lübeck, is the second largest city in Schleswig-Holstein, in northern Germany."

The receiver is stamped with "1939", and there are a couple of different marks that I think are arsenal marking (1) and two markings for a QA inspector. The QA marking stampings are the nazi eagle with 655 under it, this is stamped twice on the right side of the receiver.

An inconsistency that might be telling is the barrel band towards the end of the rifle is stamped "1934". And since I received it as a present, I didn't think of it at the time, but the stock has been refinished or had something done to it to strip off the old finish. i like this rifle as a fun collectable to shoot, I hope it's not something almost worthless or a fake because of what Mitchell's might have done to it.
 
I posted this same thread topic....found out that you can find a mauser for much less than they are selling them for, changed my mind completely
 
now I'm worried about buying a mauser at a gun show, and wondering if it's a Mitchell that someone is unloading...

which Shotgun News advertisers that sell milsurps are reputable?
 
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Well I might have paid $50 too much for my Mitchell M48, but it was already clean, which was a big plus too me, and worth it. And remember SOME of us actually buy these rifles too SHOOT, not to collect. Certainly adding to our collection, but not collecting expecting to make some kind of profit in the future. I plan on dying with my collection, and the kids have already pick out who, gets what:D

Have a good day
 
I bought my M48 and it clearly stated that it was an M48 in service grade. It looked just like any of the gun show guns, but I did only Pay 150 for it. Then I sent it back and got one of the collecter grade M48's with all of the accessories for 250. This gun is brand new condition and not a mark on it. I was just at a show yesterday and every 150 or cheaper M48 needs work and it all dinged, scratched, beaten or needs action and barrel work. there is no way you can compare the 2 rifles.

Since I bougth my M48 Mitchell's is now advertising the actual K98, which I know nothing about, but my M48 is great. I've been looking it over and I can't seem to see tell that it has been resanded or rebuild. Maybe back in 1948, but not by Mitchells.

Also, all MM have been marked on the top of the barrel just to the side just below the front sight.

I don't think I got a GREAT buy, but I got a fair buy and it's a great gun.

Shoot Safe - (I do)

Lovesbeer99
 
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