Mixing Powders

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Initially a general question. I currently use FFFg in my Remington 1858, normal load being 28.5 grains. A friend of mine has discovered a tin of what he calls 'priming powder' and is offering it to me as he no longer has a flinter to use it in.

Is there a SAFE way to mix the 2 together so that a faster burning load is created or is this likely to produce a variable strength powder?
 
Noooooooooooooooooooo~~~~~ :what:

Mixing powders is a very Baaaaaaaaad practice. I never even mix the same powder from 2 different containers.

You never know what you will wind up with.

There are duplex charges listed for cartridges, I've seen them. They were developed very carefully by knowledgeable folks. Leave the experimentation to them.
 
I've seen charges of 4F recommended for handguns. I think it might have been in an early Lyman manual. I guess for liability reasons they don't recommend them anymore, but for a while, they were an accepted load. I'd do a lot of research before trying it though.

As for mixing powders, 3F has a lot of fines in it. I sifted some and got nearly 30% 4F out of it! Some brands have more fines than others. Considering that you can use straight 4F for a charge, you could safely mix some into your 3F but I would doubt the results would be consistent. How 'bout buying a flintlock and using it up that way? :)
 
I believe the NAA mini revolver specifies 4F...and for that matter, smokeless.
 
Duncan,

Either shoot it straight, or mix it 50-50 and shoot it. You ain't gonna hurt anything.

If you got qualms, try it straight at 10% reduced. If you think it is a little weak, go to full charge.

Never gonna blow up a BP pistol with a different granulation. RARELY even notice the difference.

Cheers,

George

I like that..."NEVER, EVER MIX POWDERS!" Good Christ! This is BLACK POWDER, NOT 4831 and 3031, or Bullseye, or RedDot or the like. It's BLACK POWDER!

All burn at about 8000 PSI, regardless whether it is 4F or Cannon Powder.
Man, we got some wimps, here, and on the other forums, too. "You're gonna blow your head off!"

Sheesh!
 
Duncan,

FREE is about 15 USD less than I have to pay.

ENJOY!!!

Cheers,

George
 
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I believe the NAA mini revolver specifies 4F...and for that matter, smokeless.

I bought one of these not too long ago. NAA reccomends 4F, but not smokeless. However, a lot of people use smokeless, with no problem. :)
 
Duncan;

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a pound of FFFFg, and only one pistol to shoot it in, an NAA mini. At 5 grains a shot, a pound is going to last a while.

I know that North-South Skirmish Association shooters often shoot reduced loads of FFFg in their .58 caliber rifles. The ratio of performance is that a 60% reduction in charge for FFFG equates to a full charge of FFg. Apparently, 45 grains of FFFg leads to less fouling and more consistent groups.

I've wondered if a similar conversion could be applied between FFFg and FFFFg for use in pistols. Pressure is a tricky matter though. I have an old Sam Fadala book of black powder loads, and he tests 40 grs. of FFFFg in a ruger old army, and everything turned out fine, except accuracy suffered. I have an ROA, and I'm not worried about blowing it up. I'm an accuracy guy, so I'd be starting way low to find the sweet spot.

Secondly, in terms of duplex loads, the way to do that is to have layers of powder, not mixes. It's a specialized field when mixing smokeless or smokeless and black, since you can easily blow yourself up. However, I think loading, say, 15 grs of FFFg and 5 grs of FFFFg for a final "kicker" to maximize velocity might be an interesting expiriment. The trick is to load it as you would powder and a corn meal filler. In layers.

-John
 
As has been noted, black powder is black powder. For the first couple of hundred years they made the stuff there was no grading standard, and granulation varied from batch to batch.

You aren't going to hurt your weapons using FFFFg in them, or mixing it with any other granulation.

Nice Baker. Is that an original or a repro, and if the latter, did you have to drill out the vent?
 
Nice Baker. Is that an original or a repro, and if the latter, did you have to drill out the vent?
That's an original, split stock, 1812 I think. One or two pieces have been made for it to replace lost bits but the barrel, lock, patch box and stock are all original.

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I am not sure just what condition the barrel is in so I have not shot it with a full charge and ball. One of these days................:D :D
 
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