Modding Guns???

[fattsgalore]

I"m not a collector and as now only own one gun Glock23.(I've of course owned other guns but not as of now, no more then two at a time and no long weapons) I'm at a loss, i spent 550 bucks on my piece and truly never have liked it. Grip was funny. The sights I've never like. No safety and it's kinda ugly.
Why would you buy it then?

Cause i knew it was gonna work, no matter what! Also needed something concealable. Function over form any day I'd drive a Geo Metro if it never broke down. Thats how I am.

I'm inconsistent with the gun but it's more accurate then I am. My brother out shot me at a range expedition. Literally the second time he held a gun in his life he out did me. I'll get to the point.Regardless I'm gonna get me another pistol but not another $500 piece.

My point is should i make the Glock the gun I always wanted by modding it? What are your experiences with modding anything?(especially want to hear feed back from the Glock guys, aftermarket brands; etc.) My biggest fear is I get it modded and it messes with it's drop dead reliability which is unacceptable, period. I consider my Glock my combat piece (no I'm not military or L.E.) since i put my life in it's hand. Funny since it's in my hands.

There's local shops that do gun smithing but I don't trust them. And i shore as hell don't trust my self. I live in Central Florida so if your a local with experience point me towards reputable places, peoples name's.
If you read this essay length thread completely i have to thank you for hearing me out.

Please guys help.

 

[M.Kalashnikov]

The nature of shooting pistols

I'm not "Glock guy" but I do like to shoot and if you don't feel at one with your pistol you will never "like it" you need to find a gun that you can grow with as your shooting skill gets better you can manipulate the gun to do what you want it to do and not have to go down to the "guns level". And yes modding your gun will make you able to shoot better. Conversely once you mod your gun you change the "level" needed to be a great marksman. I hope this helps you and please do read my sig line.

Have a good day.
Brian.

 

[Sir Aardvark]

Sell the Glock.

Buy an XD.

Glocks are kind of a funny pistol. Some people love 'em; some people don't. I, myself, have never liked them - they just don't feel right when I shoot them - it could be the funky grip angle or the fact that they have no soul... but for me, they just don't work right (with the exception of the G30, of course).

Try an XD. It is in the price range of a Glock. You'll probably find that it fits your hand a little better and will shoot a whole lot better for you than your Glock - you'll never know until you try one.

Just to reiterate things here - go to a range and rent what they have; go shooting with a friend and shoot what he has; try every gun you can before you end up buying something that you're not gonna be happy with.

Regardless I'm gonna get me another pistol but not another $500 piece.

Does this mean that you spent too much? or does it mean that you think you spent too little?

$500.00 for a pistol is about the going rate for Glocks and XD's; you might find something like a CZ a little cheaper, but some 1911's will be a little more (or a lot more, depending on what model). Pretty much, if you want a quality handgun, then plan on spending at least around $500.00.

A SIG SAUER is gonna cost around $800.00 retail, and you'll probably love it 'til the day you die - SIG's are also very reliable, but don't have all that stuff you listed that you don't like.

"Modding" your Glock is gonna cost money, and you might find that you'll spend more on your "mods" than you would for a SIG that would work fine for you out-of-the-box.

Good luck!

 

[Bergeron]

I have no respect for any of my guns. I've had gunsmiths bevel the frame of my S&W 22A and expoxied slam pads to the magazine base plates just to improve my reloads. All of my guns have either been smithed, or I plan to get them smithed.

I've shot Glocks, and liked them, but never owned one. So my advice is worth what you paid for it. I'd recommend sending it off to Robar. They seems to do the most extensive Glock frame mods around. Tell them what you want, and they should be able to make it fit your hand. Also, while it's there, you can have them put new sights on it. I agree that the stock Glock sights suck. I'm personally a fan of the Heine sight. Neither of these mods should affect the reliability of your pistol.

As far as the safety goes, if you really want one, consider the Cominolli safety. It is installed on the frame, and operates like a 1911 safety, i.e., down to fire, up to safe. This modification will not void your factory warranty. I think that is notable, because if Glock considers it a modification that won't void the warranty, then it stands to reason that Glock doesn't think it will negatively alter the reliablity of your pistol. Maybe Robar could also do this, I don't know.

Anyway, good luck!

 

[Bergeron]

Something else...

I would rather spend $500 on a pistol, and then another $500 getting it modified until I was what exactly what I wanted and intended from it, than on getting $800-1000 pistol that was better than the base $500 gun, but not exactly what I wanted.

Just my opinion.

 

[fattsgalore]

No.No!
When i meant modding I'm not talking barrels and costume do hickys and blowing an extra two three hundred. A few bucks $10 dollars on a new connector, $20 new front sight. Drop in pieces, Glock factory.
I spent $550 on the Glock. 500 hundred dollars is a considerable amount of money. The real question isn't how much i was willing to spend the real question is how long did it take me to save up that much money.

And mailing my gun to a smith shop for who knows how long is scary. I couldn't be with out my gun a couple of hours let alone a couple of days.

 

[Bergeron]

Oh! Sorry 'bout that. My bad.

Yeah, if you want put in some replacement factory Glock parts, go for it! If it's from the factory, it shouldn't hurt your pistol's reliability. You can pretty much count on OEM being good-to-go.

 

[Duckster]

Get rid/exchange it

I've had guns for some reason did not work for me. For example, I owned a 1911 and it didn't matter what I did to it. It did not meet my expectations. I sold it and got a FN .40 HI POWER. Straight out of the box, it shot great and I'm much happier.
I'm not here to bash any round or make. My point is, "If it doesn't work for you, What good is it?". I try not to own anything I really don't need or have no use for. My only exception are guns that I have enherited.
Go find what works for you. You will find alot of tips at THR when searching for a firearm. I used this site alot before I made my last purchases to make sure what I bought wasn't giving any body else trouble. It saved me time and trouble.
Good luck, and I hope you find what works for you

 

[saltydog452]

I'm not sure if I read your post correctly, but, as I understand it, you bought something that really didn't 'fit' your hand, but did fit your perceived needs as far as reliability is concerned.

You don't shoot the pistol well, so now you want to change the internals so as to make you a better shot.

Is that about right so far?

If it is, I respectively suggest that you spend the money that you'd otherwise spend for 'smithing parts and service, and use the $ for a bit of instruction and ammunition.

For most of us mortals, once you get past the basic mechanical aspect of shooting such as sight alignment and trigger control, consistent accuracy has much to do with concentration....its a 'head game'.

The world class folks don't tremble, and have hand-eye condination and focus that indeed make them athletes. They didn't get that way overnight.

Maybe that helps.

salty.

 

[never_summer]

go to www.glocktalk.com they can probably help you, also check out the stuff you can do to it at www.topglock.com
look up ccf raceframes and you can put an all steel frame on it and interchange between a 1911 style or glock style grip, there is lots you can do to it

 

[BigG]

Changing Connectors and other Parts -

What you are mentioning is modding the gun because you can't shoot well? How about learning to operate the gun properly and it will shoot as well as you make it?

You are trying to buy skill by changing parts.

 

[Monkeybear]

First off, find a gun that dose what you want. Find it.

Then ask if you can make the gun you have similar to the one you want. If you cannot, then list on this board and try to exchange it with someone in your area.

 

[Plink]

If you're not shooting well with it, it's unlikely that mods will help. It sounds more like the gun doesn't fit you well. I'd do some serious thinking before acting. If it's for sure the gun for you then some serious practice and maybe some instruction would be more useful than mods. If it's the gun causing you problems, maybe trading it in for one that fits you better would be the way to go. I've never shot well with any of the Glocks I've tried, so it's not the gun for me, no matter how many mods go into it. Only you can make that decision.

 

[fattsgalore]

Your all right! To the Yays and Nays,
Ten bucks for a smother trigger pull seems cost effective to me. I know i mentioned a back up piece but thats not in my immediate future.

I do need considerable more training, period. More trigger time the better. But you know what, thats not in my cards. I can't afford to go to the range once a month let alone exchange and probably take a loss of a hundred dollars or more. I agree with people saying get a new weapon and i agree with the modders i also agree with people saying hang in their and practice.

I need more feed back. The more the better. And if your like me and post on other forums. Which i posted this every where. Check my response on HandGunFourm and TheFiringLine. I gave more detailed explanations and haven't written the same thing twice. Well except for what i want modded.

 

[two tone]

The Glock 23 is a great handgun. Although the trigger is a little different, it can easily be mastered.

To me the stock trigger has to loose of a takeup which makes for me the transition from the takeup to the point where it starts to break or get heavy somewhat difficult. When I first got the gun I would usualy end up pulling my shots down and to the left. This had alot to do with the trigger.

I have since had all of the trigger internals polish by a Glock armorer, which made the final pull or break very light and smooth.

Altough the trigger pull was made more light than stock I felt I needed to add the NY1 trigger spring made by Glock. This makes the trigger take up very stiff and springy. I like this and it adds a little safety for carry purposes.

The stock sights are decent, but not my preference. I use XS big dot sights. For general shooting these are quick and accurate. I find myself just focusing on the front sight making sure I keep the dot on target all the way through the trigger pull.

Other than those mods listed the next best thing you can do is keep your guns bore nice and clean.