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Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by stonebuster, May 10, 2019.

  1. stonebuster

    stonebuster Member

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    Forty years ago my father-in-law had occasion to use this breaking up a bar brawl downtown. The old locals still remember him swinging that thing. I'm glad he liked me.;) IMG_1913.JPG IMG_1907.JPG
     
  2. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

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    I was reluctant to give up my hickory night stick for that.
    Once I was trained and practiced, I loved it.
     
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  3. lemaymiami

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    With the proper training that's one serious impact weapon... without the training - good luck....
     
  4. theotherwaldo

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    There was one in my old motor home when I bought it. I think that its primary function was as a tire thumper.

    Maybe I need the training... .
     
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  5. D.B. Cooper

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    If it's that old, my sister probably made it. She worked at the factory for many years...many years ago.
     
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  6. stonebuster

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    The paperwork says 1976. Five years after you jumped out of that Boeing. Glad you survived.:thumbup:
     
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  7. KodeFore

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    Those are far more effective than the little expanding metal tubes they issue these days.
     
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  8. JeffG

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    After wearing and instructing the ASP for almost 30 years, I always liked the PR24 better.
     
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    In 2005 I started riding as a reserve deputy sheriff. My real job was as a welder. I made one out of galvanized pipe, welded my call sign in the shaft, and painted it black. They wouldn't let me carry it...
     
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  10. HPCadm17

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    Reminds me of T.J. Hooker. That's the first time I ever saw one of those, and I remember thinking how unpleasant it would be to get clobbered by one.
     
  11. lemaymiami

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    If you're properly trained to use (I never was since my outfit didn't use them...) one that's an outstanding control and impact weapon. Without the training look out since a bigger, stronger, quicker opponent would pretty easily take it away from you then use it to your downfall....
     
  12. mrmike7189

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    I liked the old school wood straight batons the best. Sadly no one uses them anymore. ASP expandables are the new norm. Monadnock also makes an expandle baton. They are still in business up in Fitzwilliam ,NH last time I checked?
     
  13. Gordon

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    Monadnock makes the best expandale in it's autolock series. IMHO.
     
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  14. rodinal220

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    Never had anything so fancy. We had straight sticks with a Koga stop or 5 cell Kel-Lites.
     
  15. mrmike7189

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    The metal ball on the grip end of those straight batons...we called a "rib splitter". They have all but been eliminated from all police dept inventories.
    The "less lethal "asp batons are the required equipment. No one carries large flashlights anymore either.
     
  16. waterhouse

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    I have the standard PR with my riot gear but carry the collapsible PR on my belt at work. Way better than the straight collapsible ASP.
     
  17. GunnyUSMC

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    I was trained in the use of the PR-24 by Arbrey Futrell. For those that don't know Arbrey Futrell, he is the LEO instructor from Louisiana that came up with the most powerful strike with the PR-24. It is called the Arbrey Futrell Power Strike. It is the only strike with a PR-24 baton that is capable of breaking the Femur.
    I was also trained in the use of the ASP. I carried an ASP on my belt and a PR-24 in my car for about two years and then switched to the Monadnock expandable side handle baton.
    I remember arriving on a call as backup not long after I started carrying the Monadnock side handle . Two younger Officers were out with a guy that was about 6' 250 lbs. When I got out of my unit I could see the guy was pissed and chipping his teeth (talking trash) to the two officers. Once I got out the guy stopped talking and put his hands on the hood of one of the officer's vehicle and became very calm. They checked him for weapons, to which he had none, and ended up writing him a summons, I don't recoil the charge. But once they were done one of the younger Officers asked why he went from being aggressive to being compliant.
    The guy said, Y'all carry them little sticks, then pointed at me, But he got out that car with gloves on and that stick with that handle. I knew he meant business, and it's harder for y'all to carry that stick with the handle so I knew that he knew how to use it. And I didn't want him to hit me.
    I only had to use my Monadnock expandable side handle baton once. All I will say about that is the guy wasn't happy and I had to do a lot of paperwork.
     
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  18. shootstraight57

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    I loved my ASP because of the compactness and lightweight. Can easily be carried on the duty belt with little discomfort when getting in and out of the patrol car. Traded in my PR24 for the ASP!
     
  19. Jesse Heywood

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    Never carried one, but they were popular in the 70s. Gunny said it right. With the proper training, they were very effective. Application to a subject's pressure points can render one immobile, allowing the officers to control a situation. The tazer has taken over that roll.

    I always wanted to see in person what one could do with the weapon, but never met a brother who carried one.
     
  20. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

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    Other side of coin is using the stick on a fema!e.

    The only time I got hurt on the job was from a 250 lb female while breaking up a bar brawl.
    She broke my nose. Blood everywhere!
    I went in to find her wailing on another cop. I had the stick in my hand but being new said I cant hit a female with a stick and went hands on.
    After she hit me I deployed the stick and played catch up to cuff her for the impending ambulance ride.
    I took a a lot of ribbing and was the butt end of a lot of jokes.
    Ex.
    What is red white and blue?

    Doc, After fighting with a girl!
     
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