Montana: "Lets kill predator wolves"

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Jitterbug,

I remember the first time I called in a small pack of coyotes. It was only 3 of them & I ended up with a double. It was a thrill!!

I'm sure that I would get that same feeling calling in a pack of wolves but after the "Thrill" factor wore off I think the "Pucker" factor would sink in!! What I mean is I usually hike in a couple miles to coyote hunt. Hunting 25-35lbs coyotes hell bent on eating rabbits, rodents & fawns is one thing. Imagine being in that far in the woods, alone & calling in a pack of hungry wolves that average 130-175lbs & can take down a full grown elk!! I think I would feel like one of those walking T-Bone steaks you see on Sat morning cartoons when the big bad wolf sees Porky Pig walking down the sidewalk! ;^)
 
In communist China, female humans of child bearing age have their tubes cut by the government but only after the requisite children have been born.

I suppose this is the better solution and male wolf castration, which is cruel and unusual punishment, should not be implimented in our modern civil society.

Frankly, I don't see any compelling reason to have sharks or wolves in the eco system.
 
Seems that most guys that are okay with wolves don't have any in their state. If you don't beleive that wolves are killing elk herds then you should do some research on what wolves eat. There are plenty of videos on Youtube of wolves taking down elk. Idaho is plauged with wolves more than any other state. The worst part is that they aren't even native to Idaho. Timber wolves are not the same as Grey wolves. Why do we need something here that doesn't belong here?

Also, almost nobody calls in a wolf. They are mostly a kill of opportunity because of their nomadic nature.

Lastly, I actually saw a wolf in southern Idaho when there weren't supposed to be any in Southern Idaho. The thing was so big that I thought it was a deer at first. Nonetheless, the tracks it left in the snow were not much bigger than that of a coyote. I did find one in the mud that looked HUGE but the ones in the deep snow really don't look that different from a coyote's.
 
As someone who owns a stake in a cattle ranching operation and someone who used to live in MT, I can appreciate the anti wolf sentiments.

That said I have to laugh when I hear the same people that defend hunting as a means of population control complain about wolves because of reduced ability to hunt, i.e. a better controlled population and need to issue fewer tags.


I have no issue however, also managing the wolf population. There might be real good arguments for reducing the number of wolves less game for people to kill for sport isn't amongst the most persuasive arguments to me however, and I like to hunt.

Also unless things have changed from when I lived there most folks in MT would be happier to get rid of the out of state newcomers in Missoula and Bozeman (particularly the CA immigrants) than the wolves. :D
 
I always read these post with interest. I spend a lot of time in northern Minnesota where the estimated wolf population is over 3000. In comparison, the wolf population in Alaska is somewhere between 7500-11000. This data is dated from 2005 but I don't think much has changed recently with these two states numbers. Also in 2005, the population of wolves in the western states was estimated at 800 -- it may be larger now.

Looking at these numbers alone would dictate that the density of the population in Minnesota is as dense or more so than Alaska. In the upper part of the state there are still very healthy deer populations so I'm a bit confused as to why there is such dislike of the species out in the western states. I don't understand how the ungulates could be impacted so much more out west than they are here. I've seen a number of wolf kills even on my property but the impact these kills seem to be having in the overall health of the ecosystem here in Minnesota seems minimal.

Now along with that the species here at least may be coming off of the endangered list by year end.
 
TR.....and a wise ol rancher he was. Know what???? That still stands when it comes to cats. Our season just ended here with 47 lions killed in 52 days and there were days that were not fit for man or beast to hunt. I'll take this attitude. I'm the top preditor. Any competition has to go.
 
Definitely should get rid of those mange mongrels from outa state trying to wreck the ranchers and farmers lives! Should do something about them wolves, too.
Seriously, I don't know much about wolves, not many down here, beautiful animals, certainly, but not one I want to share space with. Their idea of sharing is which one gets my liver and spleen. I do appreciate the advances of technology, and wish ecoterrorists hadn't stopped us from drilling in ANWR as well. :)
 
this is false....timber wolves and grey wolves are one and the same
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I think that is a little like saying the white tails in Saskatchewan and in Florida are the same except there is about 200 pounds difference in what they weigh.

At any rate, things were fine without the wolves. Species move around for all kinds of reasons. Man trying to manipulate it in reverse is just as bad as being the cause.

As was said earlier, there was a reason they were killed to start with and those doing it weren't total idiots.
 
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