Moon Clips
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Husker1911
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Typical revolver cartridges feature a rim. Typical auto cartridges don't, they have a rebated rim that their ejector kicks out of the chamber. Regular D/A revolvers aren't associated with auto cartridges, which require moon clips.
Revolvers chambered in auto cartridges, which require moon clips, have their own requirements and features. Personally, I love revolvers chambered in auto cartridges. Personally, I feel they offer a better manual of arms than revolvers chambered in typical revolver calibers.
Revolvers chambered in auto cartridges, which require moon clips, have their own requirements and features. Personally, I love revolvers chambered in auto cartridges. Personally, I feel they offer a better manual of arms than revolvers chambered in typical revolver calibers.
Yes, but I have heard that some competition shooters use moon clips with rimmed cartridges to speed reloading. Anyway, what I am really interested in is if moon-clips can be aquired for .357 revolvers to shoot 9mm ammunition (somewhat like the convertable Ruger Blackhawk). That way you can shoot the magnum rounds, but use the cheapest centerfire practice ammo (9mm is less than .38 Special, plus 9mm is almost always loaded with jacketed bullets while many value priced .38's use lead).
TxClaysMan
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Speedloaders are the answer
Zinj:
As you know half and ull Moon clips where put on earth to aid mortals in loading their revolvers chambered for Depending on what kind of DA six gun you have, you can get great speedloaders from Midway. Safariland and HKS are the most popular among competition shooters and law enforcement officers that still shoot wheelguns. I prefer HKS for duty carry because they lock the round in the device with a twist knob. I used Safariland extended shaft loaders in competition because they were easier to manipulate from pouch to cylinder. But if you drop one, your rounds can jump out. Try this link.
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=4&Categoryid=7233&categorystring=655***
Zinj:
As you know half and ull Moon clips where put on earth to aid mortals in loading their revolvers chambered for Depending on what kind of DA six gun you have, you can get great speedloaders from Midway. Safariland and HKS are the most popular among competition shooters and law enforcement officers that still shoot wheelguns. I prefer HKS for duty carry because they lock the round in the device with a twist knob. I used Safariland extended shaft loaders in competition because they were easier to manipulate from pouch to cylinder. But if you drop one, your rounds can jump out. Try this link.
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=4&Categoryid=7233&categorystring=655***
Jim Watson
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The first use of half-moon, now full moon clips was to enable the use of rimless autopistol cartridges in a revolver. The best known is the 1917 .45s from Colt and S&W, the clips a S&W design for use in WW I. There was a Webley-Fosberry automatic revolver in .38 ACP that used a clip, too.
It is possible to clip rimmed revolver cartridges IF the cylinder is altered to accept the thickness of the clips. If that is done RIGHT you can shoot either with or without clips.
Clips do NOT enable you to shoot rimless cartridges in a rimmed chamber like 9mm in a .38 Special unless the chambers are reamed to accept the tapered 9mm cases. That will let the Specials bulge to an alarming but not dangerous degree. I have read of a S&W 686 .357 being rechambered and cut for clips that could shoot 9x23 Win, 9x21 Italian, 9mm P, and .38 Super in clips. It would still shoot .38s and .357s but the brass was too bulged to be reloaded.
That seems like a major sacrifice to shoot crap ammo in your good revolver, but it can be done.
I have READ that it works better to modify a .45 Colt to take clipped .45 ACP and still shoot the LC. Has to be a double action swing out revolver like S&W 25-5 or Ruger Redhawk. You can't get the clips in and out of a single action, those have to have a replacement cylinder.
It is possible to clip rimmed revolver cartridges IF the cylinder is altered to accept the thickness of the clips. If that is done RIGHT you can shoot either with or without clips.
Clips do NOT enable you to shoot rimless cartridges in a rimmed chamber like 9mm in a .38 Special unless the chambers are reamed to accept the tapered 9mm cases. That will let the Specials bulge to an alarming but not dangerous degree. I have read of a S&W 686 .357 being rechambered and cut for clips that could shoot 9x23 Win, 9x21 Italian, 9mm P, and .38 Super in clips. It would still shoot .38s and .357s but the brass was too bulged to be reloaded.
That seems like a major sacrifice to shoot crap ammo in your good revolver, but it can be done.
I have READ that it works better to modify a .45 Colt to take clipped .45 ACP and still shoot the LC. Has to be a double action swing out revolver like S&W 25-5 or Ruger Redhawk. You can't get the clips in and out of a single action, those have to have a replacement cylinder.
TxClaysMan
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Cheap ammo = wadcutters
Just as I sent my last post, I realized I forgot to add that you don't want to be shooting those 9mms in your wheelgun. Mr. Watson explained it great. It ain't good or safe. Also, the projectile in 9mms is .355 I believe which means you can't expect great accuracy if any. I never tried it, but I can imagine.
If you want cheap .38 ammo, buy reloaded 148 gr. wadcutters or 158 gr. ball from a reloading outfit. That's the cheapest way to go short of casting and loading your own which gives a lot of satisfaction. If you pick up a used older Dillon progressive and buy bullets in bulk, you can really crank out the ammo.
Just as I sent my last post, I realized I forgot to add that you don't want to be shooting those 9mms in your wheelgun. Mr. Watson explained it great. It ain't good or safe. Also, the projectile in 9mms is .355 I believe which means you can't expect great accuracy if any. I never tried it, but I can imagine.
If you want cheap .38 ammo, buy reloaded 148 gr. wadcutters or 158 gr. ball from a reloading outfit. That's the cheapest way to go short of casting and loading your own which gives a lot of satisfaction. If you pick up a used older Dillon progressive and buy bullets in bulk, you can really crank out the ammo.
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