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I was watching a re-run of NCIS last weekend with the wife. The forensics lab techie (the ditzy gothic girl), while examining a shell casing, explained to one of the detectives that she couldn't tell which gun it came from, but after 2010, all shell casings by law will have to have have individual serial numbers, so it would be easy to track the gun and perp after that. Sounds like a plug for some bad legislation to me!

This morning, on History Channel, they had a show about a "kings" gang in a suburb in North Carolina, and they showed an obvious Barrett .50 cal, with a belt of linked ammo hanging over it, and they said it was one of the "machine guns" that the gangs are getting their hands on now. If Ronni Barrett is making machine guns, then I guess I understand why he won't sell in California.

I know, I know. It happens all the time. These are just more of the same.

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I'm sitting here watching the show "Gangland" and in between interviews and gang footage, they keep flashing to what appears to be a Beretta 92FS firing... I guess for the cinematic value. I wonder if that's just stock footage or some PD let them film a short clip of their on-duty carry weapon. I hardly think that the Beretta is the gang standard issue. The gang members keep mentioning Glocks... But I guess most people wouldn't know the difference. Another thing that cracks me up is the gang dude who keeps on pumping his pump shotgun for added effect and to seem tough... But he's only making it obvious that his shotgun is unloaded.
 
What's funny to me is how there's a lot of pretty accurate stuff on TV these days, but no one is ever accurate on guns stuff...
 
My favorite is the "bumper" between segments of A&E's "48 Hours" I believe.
It shows in slow motion cartridge cases falling to the ground. Look closely..........the primer pockets are EMPTY! :D
 
What's funny to me is how there's a lot of pretty accurate stuff on TV these days, but no one is ever accurate on guns stuff...
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That is such a good point. I don't know why people accept this either.
 
Eyesac, if it makes you feel better a lot of the laboratory information is wrong. A lot of it.

It all depends on how much you know about a given subject. My husband and computer savy friends cringe at the technological aspects of a lot of TV shows, but since I don't know the given limitations of certain things I accept the TV show as plausible.

Since very few people have an in-depth knowledge of Microbiology the things that irritate me slide right by them.
 
Maybe not as much nonsense as you think.

Seems to me it is more Hollywood propaganda pushing an agenda. In this case, programming the majority of the population that the "Bullet serial number" legislation is a good idea. And we all know what the real intention of THAT bill is. It is also preemptively discounting logical arguments because the "sheeple" saw it on a "forensics" show, therefor it is "scientifically" accurate.

Hollywood screen writers buying into more subtle gun control measures, is, IMO, an alert that they see an opportunity to push their agenda in a direction that we should be aware of.

FWIW

GB7
 
I don't watch the tube but I do help folks when they're writing stories. There have been times when I've put together gadgets to see whether or not a gadget used in a story would work. There have also been times when I've advised the author to change his description of a gadget because it would work TOO well.

Some things don't need to be promoted in public.
 
GREYBEARD 7 - "Hollywood screen writers buying into more subtle gun control measures, is, IMO, an alert that they see an opportunity to push their agenda in a direction that we should be aware of."
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To a very great degree, you are correct. Not all screenwriters and teeeveee writers, but most of them are very anti-guns owned by the worker peasants, serfs, and villeins. (And boys and girls, that is precisely the way they think of you, the unwashed masses.) Also, most writers know virtually nothing about firearms, other than they hate them and want them confiscated.

Their information comes from watching other flicks and teeeveee shows, in which the firearms information is false or heavily biased toward the left, or, from the Brady Bunch, lying news media, etc.

They incestuously feed on each other's misinformation and disinformation.

Most anti-gun screenwriters and teeeveee writers have no desire to be accurately informed, nor do they intend to cloud the issue with the facts in their scripts.


That's Hollywood.

L.W.
 
What's funny to me is how there's a lot of pretty accurate stuff on TV these days, but no one is ever accurate on guns stuff...
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Virtually every movie with naval combat has substantial factual errors. In Crimson Tide a few years ago, one of the errors was that the "half-message" launch order that the submarine got simply wouldn't happen - and thus the entire plot was fantasy. My wife regularly points out to me where X-rays are displayed upsidedown or backwards, medications prescribed that make no sense, and all sorts of other medical errors in television shows. I think we inherently assume factual accuracy whenever we don't have a personal expertise.

I've be surprised if CSI specialists interrogating suspects while the detectives sit back and watch doesn't irritate law enforcement types, too.
 
Wife and I watched "Quigley Down Under" twice this week.

I would like someone to confirm to me or deny that weapon as presented in that movie is either hollywood or something that has been done in the real world.

never mind the plot and the story, watch out for the tatics, shooting and such. And we did take time to count the rounds fired in that rifle. Must be easy for Hollywood to make that special ammuntion in the middle of nothing supposing a time period barely able to support the technology for it LOL.

A TV show or Movie requires just enough truth to suspend the fiction or otherwise cover up common mistakes as a house maid sweeps dust under a rug corner.

Most viewers dont have the ... brains or the motivation to dig into the stuff presented or take the time to care.

There are two shows I watch occasionally. They are either ER or Las Vegas from time to time. A bit of drama and mystery in daytime tv. Some shows not too bad, others.. really out there.
 
Just what exactly did you see in "Quigley" that makes you wonder about his rifle? It is a basic single shot black powder cartridge rifle and people did shoot extreme long range with them.
 
540 grains on a 45 bullet and drop a man at 1200 yards.

Also was the windgage sight magnified glass or not?

And was such a rifle common in those years?

Many questions.

We found some of the scenes pretty amazing when 20 guys trying to burn the character out of the hotel and could not catch him lol.
 
540 grains on a 45 bullet and drop a man at 1200 yards.
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Both Billy Dixion & Jose Chavez Y Chavez recorded single shot kills at over half a mile with Sharps buffalo guns. Both over iron sights BTW.

Also was the windgage sight magnified glass or not?
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Don't know but not out of the question

And was such a rifle common in those years?
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Yes but it has no bearing. If that was the only rifle of its kind in the world Quigley could have still been expert in it's use

Many questions.
 
That's Hollywood.
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Was watching a rerun episode of the TV show "Bones".
Lead female character (forensic scientist #1) is showing off her S&W Model 500 (4" .500S&W Magnum) revolver to another female character (scientist #2) and the lead male character (FBI agent).
FBI agent makes comment "you can't be waving that thing around. Pretty soon everyone else will want to carry a gun"
Scientist #1 replys "this is America, get use to it."
 
If Ronni Barrett is making machine guns, then I guess I understand why he won't sell in California.
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Actually he makes machine guns. He has a piston AR-15, available in select fire for Mil/Gov agencies.
 
"...CSI specialists interrogating suspects..." They don't do any cop stuff seen on any of the CSI shows. And DNA test results take more than an hour to get done too.
"...My wife regularly points out to me..." She mind when you point out the firearm errors? Or say, "I have one of those."? snicker.
 
Was watching a rerun episode of the TV show "Bones".
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"Bones" is ridiculous when it comes to guns. Boothe is supposed to be a former sniper but flinches every time he fires a weapon.

Bones once shot Boothe with her S&W and he was able to continue to chase the bad guy.

They have US Army reserve Ranger units

And they ocassionally hunt down deserters from the National Guard
 
your forget that tv shows are created. and the networks always make the content of the shows follow the political agendas of the network making said shows. As a result, when you have a network that is anti gun, its shows are anti gun.
 
I know, I know. It happens all the time. These are just more of the same.
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So why sit around and bellyache over it? That approach certainly doesn't HELP change anything....
 
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