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Mortars? Anyone know?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by VTKFJoe, Sep 8, 2009.

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  1. VTKFJoe

    VTKFJoe Member

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    Does anyone know what these are?

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    Joe
     

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  2. starkadder

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    I may be wrong and I am sure that I will be corrected by someone more knowledgeable but I think that those are Hedge Hog rounds, the Hedge Hog was an anti submarine weapon used in WW2. It fired a volley of up to 48 high explosive rounds, and was a very effective anti submarine weapon, any one else?


    This is this! It's not something else, it's this!

    Don't pull it if you don't plan to use it, and don't use it if you don't plan to kill!

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  3. Cosmoline

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    The scale is confusing, but I don't think they're anywhere near big enough to be hedgehogs. They look more like part of a little 2" or metric equivalent mortar kit. Prob. soviet.
     
  4. eatont9999

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    I don't know what it is, but I could tell you what they look like...
     
  5. eye5600

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    A little research suggests the the hedgehog had/has a 30lb charge, so I think that is ruled out.
     
  6. VTKFJoe

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    They are about 2 inches across the widest part. They are about 6" long.

    Not mine, a friend sent the picture and was wondering.
     
  7. Dain Bramage

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    Bangalore Torpedoes?
     
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    Can't ID for sure, but looks like a rack of practice bombs of some sort.
     
  9. Harve Curry

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    Having no experience at all let me try and guess.

    The projectiles are 2"x 6" long, 4 in a row of 5 (the 5th row just out of frame) so the box is about 30"x 20".
    The Tube-pipe is mortar/rocket tube and contains the firing pin at the bottom so when set up and a projectile is dropped in the base hits the pin and off she goes. The hole is a pressure relief and you want to position that away from the operators (2?).

    Wait they've all been drilled out, demilled. The hole in the tube don't belong there and several of the rocket/mortar rounds have the explosive end drilled out on the side.
     
  10. highorder

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    Those are simply explosive packed tubes. The have no projectile.
     
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    Funny comment, eatont! :cool:
     
  12. PandaBearBG

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    I don't know any mortar that small, I'd say recoiless rifle but they have fins, maybe they are dropped from a plane? They don't look like they would fly to far, so maybe they are dropped?
     
  13. Cosmoline

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    I think they're just 2" mortar bombs with a launching tube.
     
  14. clem

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    Those are part of a sub-caliber training kit for the U.S. M29 81mm Mortar. They use .22 blanks as the propellant charge.
    The long tube is the sub-caliber bore and fits in the 81mm barrel/tube.

    They were a lot of fun to set up and practice with.
     
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    wild guess

    Sorry, I don't know.

    They do not look like ordinance however.
    Possibly rounds for a Spigot mortar.


    My guess would be some type of industrial tool for cleaning out pipe lines.
     
  16. CWL

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    Spigot mortars are HUGE.

    I first guessed Japanese knee mortar- but those don't have fins.

    I think clem has it right.
     
  17. 4v50 Gary

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    Definitely not hedgehog rounds. Their warheads are more cylindrical. I'll put my money on Clem's comments.
     
  18. clem

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    Gentlemen and ladies, I have it right because I HAVE USED THIS TRAINING DEVICE in the Corps!:D
     
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    Clem,
    So how old are they??
     
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    I mortar is a tube like bazooka used for long distances. it sits on the ground and you aim it and drop the round in and boom its gone. they cove a area of 12 yards. or u can use the flare round with flares a light and slowly comes back down... hope this helps
     
  21. clem

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    Harve,
    We were using them in 1972 but I'll bet that they have been around for a while. Before the M29 Mortar there was the M1 which was used in WWII. Both are 81mm bores.
     
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    gunnerjones - depending what mortar you use, an 81mm with HE will have a 34 square meter kill radius, I think a 60 is about 25 sq m. There's HE, Illum, and Red Phosphorus too.
     
  23. Harve Curry

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    Did the US reference them by inches or metric during WWII?
     
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    Thank you Clem.
    Thank you God! Those thing don't appear safe in their condition.
     
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