Mosin Mods

[elmerfudd]

Not everything needs to be about profit, retaining value or collectability. Sometimes you can get your moneys worth just from the enjoyment you get with the project.

I've got a couple of minute of barn MN's in my safe right now that would probably be more fun in a butchered state than they are now. I've already promised them to my nephew though.

 

[SimpleIsGood229]

I mean, all you guys flaming this thread about "ruining" a rifle must be crazy. You are telling me that in long-range Garand shooting they don't modify those "priceless GI" rifles to accept scopes and match triggers and crown muzzles, etc.? And those rifles start at $500+ and only go up from there.

A Garand can be accurized into a match weapon, a Mauser can be made into a nice sporter, but honestly, I don't think a Mosin is that good for any kind of non-historical transformation. I think Mosins are best in their original form. That's the other half of it for me.

I do fully respect your opinion, however.

 

[fireflyfather]

I am unclear on the purpose of a pistol grip and folding stock on a bolt action rifle. If done purely for "looks", I suppose it is stupid, in a stupid way. If done out of some misplaced desire for utility, you've just about doubled perceived recoil, doubled muzzle blast, and doubled the time it takes for your hand to reach the bolt from the firing position to reload. Stupid. 35Whelan's mods are MUCH more utilitarian.

 

[Atla]

Rock Solid makes excellent Mosin Nagant parts.

 

[fireflyfather]

A Garand can be accurized into a match weapon, a Mauser can be made into a nice sporter, but honestly, I don't think a Mosin is that good for any kind of non-historical transformation. I think Mosins are best in their original form. That's the other half of it for me.

Samo Hayha and the rest of Finland disagree with you, and they have a stronger argument. A Mosin can be just as accurate as a garand, provided handloaded ammo and accurizing.


To the OP: As has been said, cutting the barrel down to 16" is only going to generate a fireball, not improve accuracy. If you're going to handload with fast burning powders, it might be ok, but don't expect it to be a 500 yard gun at that point. There's a reason some of us like the long barrels on the 91/30. Slow burning powders can give higher velocities/better long range accuracy. Also, if you download real far (not for the novice!!!), that long barrel can even work almost as good as a suppressor.

 

[AmishFury]

Samo Hayha and the rest of Finland disagree with you, and they have a stronger argument. A Mosin can be just as accurate as a garand, provided handloaded ammo and accurizing.

except the only finnish rifles with exceptional accuracy are finn made models... for example simo hayha used a m28

russian made rifles in finnish service would have been just as accurate as a russian rifle in russian service... depending on the skills of the meatbag behind the rifle

 

[SimpleIsGood229]

Samo Hayha and the rest of Finland disagree with you, and they have a stronger argument. A Mosin can be just as accurate as a garand, provided handloaded ammo and accurizing.

I think my post was taken a bit out of intended context. I was referring to Bubba in 2008 taking an M44, for example, and attempting to make it into something it's not.

A Mosin can be just as accurate as a garand, provided handloaded ammo and accurizing.

Absolutely. As you've pointed out, the Finns have pretty well proven that.


Perhaps I should slightly modify my original post:

A Garand can be accurized into a match weapon, a Mauser can be made into a nice sporter, but honestly, I don't think a Mosin is that good for any kind of non-historical transformation. I think Mosins are best left in their historically accurate form. That's the other half of it for me.

There, I think that's better.

 

[RonE]

A guy on another forum made a Mosin-Nagant sniper/target rifle. Here is a link to that thread that shows how much you can do if you want to spend the money. I don't think anyone will fault the project, considering what he started with.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=29075

My personal project was done on the cheap but you can shoot a project like this with a money gun. To each his own.

If you look around, you will find other examples of Mousen Nouget rifles turned into sporters.

 

[andypifkin]

not mine

 

[dirtyjim]

cz 42 go ahead & build whatever you want. sporterizing military rifles is as much a part of our culture & history as the wars they originally fought in. when i first started cutting up guns i really botched a few of them & i expect everyone else who had the guts to do their own work did to. you may end up with a pile of parts that never gets back together or you may end up with a one of a kind rifle that you built yourself. your first efforts will probably not come out right but you will see why it didn't work & maybee come up with a solution.
you always hear that you'll turn your rifle into a worthless pos & you just might bu most of the rifles i've built are worth more in their sporterized state than they would be worth in their original condition. you can get a very nice springfield 1903 for under $1000, you cant get a sedgley, a jaeger or a griffin & howe 1903 for that.

 

[Joe Demko]

You'll need to document Bubba'ed rifles being worth more than their original military versions. Sedgely et. al. weren't Bubba...but you knew that when you posted.

 

[dirtyjim]

You'll need to document Bubba'ed rifles being worth more than their original military versions. Sedgely et. al. weren't Bubba...but you knew that when you posted.

i guess you haven't priced a quality built sporter based on a mauser or a 1903. i don't build bubba guns & i never said a bubba gun was worth more than it was in its military condition.
all the top builders started somewhere & most of them would like to have bought their early creations back so no-one else could see how horrible they were.
i have a sedgley 1903 & my work is as good as his if not better. i have several guild rifles & my work is slowly creeping up on the quality on them.