Good M91/30 Muzzle Brake

[Dreamcast270mhz]

Got to shoot 55 rounds out of my Mosin 91/30, and my shoulder hurts like a @$#$. Are there any good, durable muzzle brakes I can put on it? Yes, I already have a recoil pad on it, which helped, but I'm still sore after shooting it. I saw this one : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140565014278

But I've heard of issues with screw on types. What about one that fits on like the bayonet, or the M44 brakes or what else is out there?

 

[Sam Cade]

Linear brakes (like in your link) don't do much for recoil since they are, y'know, linear.

If a full size Mosin with a recoil pad on it is hurting you bad after that small amount of shooting you might have a technique issue.

Get someone to spot you and critique.

 

[Red Cent]

Sam, don't have any idea what the Mosin recoil does to a shoulder.

I tried other compensators on my Stag M3 and the last one was the one shown. Noticeable difference. Less muzzle rise. Not as loud (to the shooter). I think. 'Course, it still ain't no brake.

 

[Sam Cade]

Sam, don't have any idea what the Mosin recoil does to a shoulder.

Sure I do. I can even tell you that a light ball equivalent out of a 9 pound Mosin rifle will generate 2.8 ft/lbs of recoil impulse, and have around 14 ft/lbs of recoil energy. I figured this up a week ago when I was working up a load for my pet Finn and wondered how the weight variation would effect recoil between the 2.

I tried other compensators on my Stag M3 and the last one was the one shown. Noticeable difference. Less muzzle rise.

There is a really good comprehensive test of a bunch of brakes/comps floating around out there involving accelerometers and such. The Levang and the Troy variant thereof had about the same effect as adding an equal amount of dead weight.

Not as loud (to the shooter).

That is why Ive got a few, Mostly to make SBRs less obnoxious, but Ive got one on a rifle that I keep in the barn.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

When I go back next week I'll get someone to spot me. At 100 yards I could get a 3 in group, but that pesky trigger has been giving me hell so hopefully my work on that will help that a bit.

I tried at least 3 different positions on the bench and all of them were equally uncomfortable. One thing I noticed is the stock is VERY light for a Mosin, compared to the NE Westinghouse one my friend owns mines a lightweight, I'm thinking that may have something to do with it, I think it is the same wood the SVT stocks used (arctic birch IIRC) because it also is quite soft, to the point my fingernail can leave a mark in it.

 

[Sam Cade]

If your buddy has a Westinghouse mosin, he has a M91 not a 91/30. It will be quite a bit longer longer in the barrel and the stock will be close grained black walnut.
It should be about 3/4 a pound or so heavier than a 91/30

 

[Cosmoline]

I tried at least 3 different positions on the bench and all of them were equally uncomfortable.

Get off the bench into off hand and kneeling or sitting and you may find the rifle is not crunching bone as bad. Shooting a Mosin from the bench for anything but sighting in or testing loads is pointless. It's a rifle made to be fired from the stances and is an ideal way of brushing up on them.

 

[WardenWolf]

King Armory makes ones that will fit a Mosin with a threaded barrel. Their 7.62 brakes are bored out large enough to accommodate the larger .311 bullets the Soviets use.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Learn to reload! You don't need to be downing Nazi's at 2000 meters, just punching paper at 2 or 3 hundred.

I'm pulling apart my milsurp and reloading back into (non-corrosive primed!) brass, at 3/4 the original powder charge. Makes for a very nice accurate plinking round that won't beat the living krap out of you in an afternoon's shooting.

The muzzle brakes really aren't going to do you any good.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

I've been meaning to, but until I get my employment straight all I can afford is milsurp. I'll look at king armory and some reviews about them....

 

[ball3006]

Just shoot more often....

your shoulder will get used to the recoil. If you shoot from the standing position, your body rocks with the recoil and your shoulder won't feel it as much. Keep an eye out for some of that copper clad nylon bulleted ammo for short range practice. It has all the flash and bang, but no recoil. It is accurate out to about 100 yards....chris3

 

[Vaarok]

Shooting from a bench magnifies recoil tremendously, you tend to lean into the rifle like a wedge and not flex your whole body absorbing the recoil impulse the way you would standing or kneeling.

And for what it's worth, all the brakes made for Mosins suck, and tend to grenade after about ten or fifteen rounds.

Lastly, are you shooting yellowtip? Silvertip is much less painful.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

148gr silvertip, had a friend pull some bullets. it is steel core with copper washed jacket and case, has red coating around case mouth and primer, preservative I suppose. I have only owned my own guns for about 8 months, before then I went infrequently to the range, mostly shooting "tactical" rifles.

 

[Sam Cade]

A silver tip would indicate standard light ball.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

Yeah, I think, I could be wrong but Dark Sun swore that it was albanian, but weren't they Yugoslavia at that point.

 

[Sam Cade]

Albanian light ball is brass cased with no paint on the bullet.

Albania has been a sovereign state since 1912.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

They lied then. Whatever it still shoots fine so I can't really complain.

 

[Shadow 7D]

If you MUST have a break, and not a simple limbsaver slip on pad...
just thread your barrel and instal a AK break, MUCH cheaper too btw.

 

[Dreamcast270mhz]

I already have a recoil pad, but I've decided to just tough it out and worry about it later, I may never need it.

 

[_N4Z_]

I shoot Mosins off a bench at military bolt action rifle competitions. That is 5 strings of 10, plus initial sight in/foulers... So about 60 in a session. I use a bath towel rolled up on the shoulder. I am cheap. Many of the other guys use those pads you can tie onto your shirt, or slip on rubber recoil pads. Rifles being used are Mausers, 1903's, K31's, Mosins, etc..... and nobody is running a muzzle break.