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I was just watching a special on sniping on the Miltary Channel. They were talking about the Mosin Nagant being the primary sniping weapon for the Red Army during WWII. Would someone in the know please tell me what model Nagant was used?

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TIMC- How accurate can you shoot the Nagant? What type of scope do you have on it and finally how powerful is the 7.62X54r round?
 
TIMC- How accurate can you shoot the Nagant? What type of scope do you have on it and finally how powerful is the 7.62X54r round?
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On the average 5 shot groups in the 1.5" range @100 yards with handloads and about 4"-6" at 200 yards. The scope is a Russian PU 3.5 power scope. Mine is not original but a copy made in the Ukraine and done very well.
The 7.62x54 round is very close to the .308 in muzzle velocity and makes a good hunting round. Here is a pic of a pig I took with it in January.
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Thanks for info TIMC. Based on what you told me, I am even more amazed at what the Soviet snipers did during the war. I have an m44 that shoots high and right and I trying to figure out how to adjust the site.

BTW- Nice Hog! How far was that shot?
 
Well I hear the M44 sighting issues can usually be fixed by shooting with the bayonet extended as they sighted them in that way at the factory......

As for Soviet snipers, I believe they tended take themselves a little closer to the targets than some of their opponents, to even the differences in equipment. Seems like the Soviet "expendable soldier" doctrine was in its usual full effect.
 
Brit- Really good point. The Red Army really didnt value the lives of their own. It sure Was effective though!
 
Yep. I'm a wargamer as well as a shooter and most of my World War Two stuff is Soviet, both 20mm and microarmour. There is something really neat about their "just technical enough to do the job, solid enough to pass down to your grandkids" engineering mentality.
 
In my recent range trip with my T53, the bayonet made no discernible difference in POI. I tried it both ways again after I finally got my front sight compensation down.

It seems there is quite a mixed bag of results here.
 
TIMC, that Mosin Nagant Sniper is just beautiful. Did you do it yourself, or is it third party? Or (assuming you're loaded) is it original?
 
Thanks for info TIMC. Based on what you told me, I am even more amazed at what the Soviet snipers did during the war. I have an m44 that shoots high and right and I trying to figure out how to adjust the site.

BTW- Nice Hog! How far was that shot?
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The shot was just over 100 yards. It is amazing what the Russian snipers had to work with. The scope being 3.5x is not a great long range scope but it is more than you need under 200 yards.


TIMC, that Mosin Nagant Sniper is just beautiful. Did you do it yourself, or is it third party? Or (assuming you're loaded) is it original?
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No the rifle is not an original. I built it because I could no longer see the sights well with my old eyes so I decided to make a fun project out of it and make it into a sniper. I did the refinishing and threaded the barrel myself to add a Krinkov muzzle brake. I added the brake just for looks but it does actually tame recoil some. I bought the scope off Ebay. When the package got here I was impressed to see it had shipped from the Ukraine. I had a gunsmith drill and tap the holes for the scope mount. You can actually buy a reproduction sniper copy for cheaper than it cost me to do it myself.
 
You can actually buy a reproduction sniper copy for cheaper than it cost me to do it myself.
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Considering I haven't got a decent drill press or much practice with one, I'd be figuring the cost of a couple of new receivers into that too :) Well, wherever you got it, it's nice enough to goad me into saving up for my own again! My eyes aren't great either (the SKS is wearing a Firesights front and will be wearing a TS200 rear as soon as I can find my Dremel) so the scope would be nice....
 
Nice Mosin TIMC. Does that cheek pad let you get a good cheek weld instead of the typical chin weld? I've thought bout doin that to my mosin sniper: MosinSniper.gif
 
As for Soviet snipers, I believe they tended take themselves a little closer to the targets than some of their opponents, to even the differences in equipment. Seems like the Soviet "expendable soldier" doctrine was in its usual full effect.
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this has nothing to do with soviet disregard for thier soldiers. this was because WW2, and post war soviet snipers opperated on a more unit level. the served much like our SDM's do today. soviet use of "stalker" type snipers is rather limited.
 
Mosins can be pretty darned accurate! I can pick off paint cans at 200 yards with my open sights 1915 vintage m91, and I'm not even a very good shot with a rifle! I imagine a better rifleman could get excellent accuracy out of one of those rifles.
 
Thats a goodlooking sniper sharkhunter!

Nice Mosin TIMC. Does that cheek pad let you get a good cheek weld instead of the typical chin weld? I've thought bout doin that to my mosin sniper:
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The cheek pad does a very nice job helping get a better cheek weld and I didn't want to mount anything permanent to the stock. I had thought of going with something like leather to make it look a little more true to the period but since the muzzle brake wasn't invented until in the 50's I'm a little off anyway so what the heck.
 
Mannix- Simo is my new hero. That guy was pretty much bad ass. Lived to be almost a hundred after getting shot it the head. I guess there is something to a frozen herring diet.
 
TIMC - Thats nice. I think Im going see about a cheek pad here soon. Thing shoots as nice as it looks. It's a '42 Izzy with a '48 scope. Scope is Russian and is crystal clear. Bore is like a mirror with sharp grooves. Ive only shot it out to about 75 yards. I have enough space to do close to 200 yards, but I havent felt like walking much farther then 10 feet out my back door to shoot...literally. It put two shots touching at 75 yrds twice (once with me shootin it and the other with my shootin buddy behind the trigger). Also a decent 3 shot group about an inch at the widest. Ammo used was the silvertip. Im not sure of the country it is from or if it is the heavy or light ball. Either way, im real happy with it. :cool:
 
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