spartand003
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For about a week every winter we either get a little snow, a lot of ice, or in the case of last year, a lot of snow. Broke records. Figured my Nagant could use some fresh snowy mountain air. That's my backyard by the way.
Mosin Nagant!
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spartand003
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MarkDozier
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go to 7.52X54R.net for lots of great help. I highly recommend you completely tear down the rifle and the rebuild it. You will fall in love with the simple rugged design.
I love my M-44
I love my M-44
perch
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Good choice. The 1943 91/30 was my first rifle as well, which I got about a year ago.
I've shot it regularly and just love the thing. I'm constantly impressed by how incredibly accurate it is with just the iron sights.
I'd recommend doing something about the butt, though. I usually put a scarf or something between my shoulder and the butt which helps tremendously. I once ran 15 rounds through it without doing that and I'll never do it again, the soreness is too much.
And I second the backstop, those rounds can do some serious penetration. I once got them to go through over 24" of tree trunk.
I've shot it regularly and just love the thing. I'm constantly impressed by how incredibly accurate it is with just the iron sights.
I'd recommend doing something about the butt, though. I usually put a scarf or something between my shoulder and the butt which helps tremendously. I once ran 15 rounds through it without doing that and I'll never do it again, the soreness is too much.
And I second the backstop, those rounds can do some serious penetration. I once got them to go through over 24" of tree trunk.
forestdavegump
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Great gun, great price, have fun and welcome.
The bayonets are great!
The bayonets are great!bigedp51
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The picture in the snow is why they rubbed a mixture of 1/3 raw linseed oil, 1/3 beeswax and 1/3 turpentine on the stock and metal parts as a "rain coat" for moisture.
I'm glad you like your Mosin. I don't usually mind recoil, but the day after I shot my first Mosin Nagant I "happened" to be in my LGS and saw a used Pachmayr slip-on recoil pad for $5. I bought it and it makes shooting the rifle much more enjoyable, also it slips on and off in a jiffy so I can move it around if needed.
USAF_Vet
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1925 Izzy 91/30 was my first centerfire rifle. Not too long after I picked up a '53 Hungarian M-44.
The 91/30 has become something of a safe queen since I got the M-44 though. My '25 is so nice looking, complete arsenal refurb. The M-44 is getting an overhaul.
Mosin Nagants are simply great guns to shoot. The fireball from a M-44 at dusk is a thing of beauty, they are dirt cheap and will outlive your grandkids.
The 91/30 has become something of a safe queen since I got the M-44 though. My '25 is so nice looking, complete arsenal refurb. The M-44 is getting an overhaul.
Mosin Nagants are simply great guns to shoot. The fireball from a M-44 at dusk is a thing of beauty, they are dirt cheap and will outlive your grandkids.
KimberUltra
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I was just wondering about one thing. I bought some ammo ad decided to see how she chambered. The bolt goes forward smoothly, but it takes a nice slap to lock it down. Normal or no?
Nice gun! Two things: I take about two handfulls of those plastic cheetos they use for packing, triple up 3 of those plastic store bags and make a pad. Kind of scrunch it up to gun-butt configurations. Then tape it to the butt or jam it at your shoulder. I find the tape works best. And the extra two inches or so, for me, makes for more control. Plus, you just throw them away afterwards. Don't worry about comments at a range; the guys with the commercial pads will be hurting before you. Second. Buy ammo. That surplus is going away. Don't be choosey.
Frozen North
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Probably cosmoline in the chamber. If you start getting sticky bolt syndrome ( bolt handle wont lift/wont extract when rifle is hot) this is for surely the problem. This is a goofy problem with these guns. You think the gun is clean.... but it is still goobered up with cosmo...
Get the gun nice and warm, slather the chamber in hoppes, then chuck a bore brush the size of a chamber in a drill. It works every time.
I thought I had mine 100% clean, and I still had cosmo drooling from the wood today after 200 rounds fired quickly. The wood got HOT, and more came out!
The enemy of cosmo is heat....
oh, and regarding the mosin safety interlock there on the end, without a custom refigure they are about useless, unless you carry a special tool that will replace your fingers. What can you expect? You ask a Russian and he says SAFETY? WHAT SAFETY? IS NOT SAFE! is GUN!
KimberUltra
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Well I've never fired it. It's been cleaned and all that. It's extract fine. Bolt goes forwards and back like butter, and even "unlocking" the bolt is smooth. Just locking it down is rough
One thing it may be is the extractor is too tight to the boltface. Take the bolt apart, and set a cartridge on the boltface, with the rim under the extractor.
If the cartridge doesn't stand flat on the bolthead, the extractor is too close to the boltface, and when you try to close the bolt and chamber a round, it creates unnecessary resistance. Take a flat screwdriver, lay it across the bolthead with the edge under the claw, and VERY gently lever the extractor out a tiny bit until the cartridge lays flat.
A moderate portion of stiff-bolt-syndrome is caused by a refurb-program "whack it in place and move on to the next one" replaced extractor.
If the cartridge doesn't stand flat on the bolthead, the extractor is too close to the boltface, and when you try to close the bolt and chamber a round, it creates unnecessary resistance. Take a flat screwdriver, lay it across the bolthead with the edge under the claw, and VERY gently lever the extractor out a tiny bit until the cartridge lays flat.
A moderate portion of stiff-bolt-syndrome is caused by a refurb-program "whack it in place and move on to the next one" replaced extractor.
I'm lookin' for a photo with a nice fat Russian girl next to it. You know, some lady who just got through diggin' a tank ditch to try to stop a Panzer. She could be wearin' baggy socks and a head scarf for all I care. But it has to be a one piece farm dress and carrying a shovel.
HavelockLEO
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I'll jump in too
Finnish M-39/PU has the lightest trigger of ANY rifle I've ever owned and shoots better than MOA
Finnish capture 1939 91/30 "D" marked chamber also has a sweet trigger
My regular shooter, counter bored at the muzzle, dark in the grooves, but she'll digest anything I load her with, bent bolt handle was installed for easr of manipulation
Just a project to see what she'd look like in a synthetic stock
Finnish M-39/PU has the lightest trigger of ANY rifle I've ever owned and shoots better than MOA
Finnish capture 1939 91/30 "D" marked chamber also has a sweet trigger
My regular shooter, counter bored at the muzzle, dark in the grooves, but she'll digest anything I load her with, bent bolt handle was installed for easr of manipulation
Just a project to see what she'd look like in a synthetic stock
W.E.G.
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NAGANT!
Difficult part of taking photos of a Nagant is that you have to step back about 30' to get it in the frame. Difficult to shoot at an indoor range because even with the target all the way back your muzzle is about 6" from the target (and the muzzle flash will likely ignite the paper target). They're cool rifles though. Three of us bought one each at a gun show many moons ago. One guy took a small white tail with his the next weekend. It killed and gutted the small deer in one shot. Haven't shot mine in a while. But they're really cool, rugged rifles. Don't worry about laying them on rocks. They've been dropped on rocks and still work fine.
jmstevens2
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Actually, varnish from the cosmoline can build up in the bolt as well. This and the varnish build up in the chamber cause the sticky bolt. Brake cleaner, or gun scrubber, heat from shooting, and repeated cleanings fix both. The safety then becomes useable. Not easy, but useable.
jmstevens2
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Not being an internet commando, I cannot comment. Mine works, I use it when I need to. As I don't carry this rifle in combat as an infantryman would have back in the day I don't need to. Being an infantryman for 15 years, I do indeed prefer to carry with the bolt closed, in the case of the Mosin that means chambered, who would carry it completely empty? In that case, yes, I would indeed engage the safety. And when properly cleaned of cosmoline and varnish build up from the cosmo that has been there for 50 or 60 years, it works just fine.
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