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I love my Mosin, I paid way under $100 for it, ammo is pretty cheap, and its totaly reliable. Its a humble 91/30, the bore is dark but the rifling is strong.

I was at the range the other day with my buddy and his fancy Colt AR mounting the latest greatest Eotech. He was like I bet your old POS Russian gun can't hit those clay pigeons out their. I was like watch...first shot got one...second shot got one, third shot missed but I was so close the shock of the bullet impact caused it to break.:D OTOH I'm pretty sure his AR could print tighter groups on paper, but that doesn't really matter. My Mosin is sighted to minute of German, it wasn't built to put pretty holes in paper.

I was like now lets trying dumping sand in the action and seeing how they work, he didn't want to do that for some reason.:neener::D

I love the Mosin, as long as you can work the bolt and load it, it will fire.

My other hobby is out shooting modern guns with my old mil surp rifles. It takes one heck of a rifle to out shoot my K31.
 
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fantastic...i'm not that great with my mosin, but I saw another guy do it at the range with a sniper he had taken the scope off of. He was just a great shot (but I would never have guess while looking at him) and was very capable offhand. Owned the AR user. (Note: not knocking all AR users or saying results are typical. Most mosins cannot outshoot ARs, user experience may vary)
 
Oh I'm not knocking the AR its a great rifle. I just feel that sometimes their owners feel its the end all and be all of rifle technoligy. I enjoy correcting that train of thought now and than. More so when my beloved milsurps are challenged.

Just because its new, and the latest and greatest...doesn't mean that its better.

The greatest sniper of all times used a Mosin, look up Simo Hayha, aka "White Death". His official kill count was 542 Russians with his rifle. I may be wrong but I don't think anyone using a modern rifle has topped that, or come close.
 
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yeah Hatteras - I agree. I love pulling out the milsurps. My M39 first time out with it, first shot, I got the bullseye. Lucky shot - I'm not that good :) But it is very consistent. My K31 too. But think about guns and technology - in the end, you have a widened part of a barrel for the cartridge to sit in, a barrel for the bullet to travel down, and a pin to make the primer go pow. You have to give it to guns like the Mosin - they do this very simply and reliably.
 
I've always come back home to the Mosin-Nagants. Maybe it's my natural contrariness, but I love the way they look, handle and shoot.
 
One fascinating thing about Simo Hayha is that he used IRON SIGHTS. Wow, killing 542 people without them killing you using no optics is beyond incredible.

Granted they were Russians, who were struggling due to Comrade Stalin's recent purge of their officer corps, but still, incredible.
 
I've always come back home to the Mosin-Nagants. Maybe it's my natural contrariness, but I love the way they look, handle and shoot.
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Amen brother.
And besides, they come in sooo many flavors.:cool:
 
Another thing.. each Mosin-Nagant is a mystery box with a prize inside. For the compulsive hand loader who likes to ferret out the secret of a rifle, they're fantastic. Whereas with a rifle such as a K-31 you know before you shoot it that it will prefer GP-11 and little else. With the Mosins I've often found one that shoots horribly with most loads but then, for no apparent reason, locks in like a laser with one particular load. Finding that sweet spot is a lot of fun. For me anyway.
 
One fascinating thing about Simo Hayha is that he used IRON SIGHTS. Wow, killing 542 people without them killing you using no optics is beyond incredible.

Granted they were Russians, who were struggling due to Comrade Stalin's recent purge of their officer corps, but still, incredible.
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Yeah and it was 40 degrees below zero, with 6ft of snow on the ground in the middle of winter. He had a few cans of food, and went and climbed some trees.:what:

It took brass balls to go walk into the forest all by yourself in the middle of winter as the Soviet army was advancing on you.
 
I shoot alot at the range at ft hood.it was a few years ago I was shooting at the 100 meter line with my M28/30.I could hear some snickers from the M-1 guys about my russian junker and how they might move down a slot or two as it might blow up.:).
they didn't have much to say after we went down range and checked targets.most people think mosins are cheap crappy guns and thats ok with me as I keep buying them.
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The greatest sniper of all times used a Mosin, look up Simo Hayha, aka "White Death".
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I believe I once read he also put a Swede model 96 Mauser to devastating use also, the Swedes furnished quite a few to the Finns.
 
Just because its new, and the latest and greatest...doesn't mean that its better.
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Please by all means come to the next tactical rifle match.
I am not knocking surplus rifles, I love my 1903, No1 MkIII* and my K98. But none of the rifles can hold a candle to my FAL. And I would put my No1 MkIII* up against any Mosin and time. I love surplus rifles a great deal. But better, more accurate rifles have been made in the last 70 odd years. And if we are comparing Mosins to other surplus WWII rifles, there were better rifles made then as well.
 
You're shooting sub-MOA groups with an FAL?
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Nope and never claimed that either. Just said my FAL was better, and IMO it is. At least for what I like to do. She'll hold 1.5 to 2MOA if I do my part.
You're shooting sub MOA groups with a Mosin? I have never seen a stock Mosin that was able to shoot better than 2 MOA and more like 3 to 4. But as they say YMMV.
 
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Nice M39. I'd like to add on to my collection. Hmmmm I have family in TX, I may have to wander down that way one of these days. Like I said, I love my surplus rifles, heck I want to add a Long Lee if I can find one, but for the shooting I do a modern auto loader will just flat out run a bolt gun. And don't even get me started on those AR kids... you should see the confused looks I get when I take the FAL out of the case. I guess I came on too strong, and I am sorry for that. I try not to overstate my case, but I am afraid that in this case I have. I am all about running what you love.
 
gus I am down here at ft hood.come on down and lets shoot.:).
btw thats not a M39 its a finn sako M28/30 with a .308 bore.I handload sierra 168 gr match bt's for it.
pete

The m/28-30 would gain its fame on two occasions during the late 1930’s and 1940’s. With the World Shooting Championships being held in Helsinki in 1937, SAKO was ordered to produce m/28-30 rifles for the competition. As each participant would be using the m/28-30 rifle in the event, over 440 rifles were ordered and produced to exacting standards to ensure that each rifle was identical. Prior to 1966, the shooting championships were held using the host country’s service rifle in a center fire caliber. For the 1937 championships the m/28-30 of the images (Civil Guard) was chosen over the Army’s m/27 because of its excellent quality, adjustable sights and exceptional accuracy. These rifles were marked with a special indicator of “MM” prior to the serial number of the rifle and marked with a small brass plaque on the right side buttstock. The serial number block that was used for the championship was between 48791 and 49467. Of these rifles 83 of them were picked to be used in the competition, from serial numbers 48963 to rifle number 49466.

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/MosinNagant-M2830rifle-introduction.asp
 
gus the rifle is stone stock.I bought back in 92-93 ?.its not "D" stamped so handloads only.come on down and I'll let you try it out and the BBQ is on me.
pete

I retired in 94 out of the 1st cav 227 avn.aircraft armament.
 
Oh I'm not knocking the AR its a great rifle. I just feel that sometimes their owners feel its the end all and be all of rifle technoligy.
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+1. I own an AR, but I can see its weaknesses. I think I just might pick me up one of them mosins...
 
Gus, that S with the funny stuff on top stands for Sako. Little company you may have heard of. That's a pre-war Finn. The rifles of White Death that stopped the Red Army cold. And they will outshoot your FAL.
 
Well, I've got a 91/30. The bore is shiny and the rifling is strong. The action is smooth and the wood is good. I'm very happy with it. However, I've noticed the sights seem to be very off. I'll be taking it to the range probably this weekend to see if I can adjust them. Last time I shot with, once I figured the appropriate amount of windage and elevation to correct for, I got all of my shots in 1-2 inch groups at 100 yards. At least it's consistent.

I'm grateful to live in a country where we have so many choices.
 
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