Most dead-reliable .223 assault rifle?

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Mudpuppy,

Does the century Galil use Galil mags? I'm very interested in a Galil, but century doesn't have the best reputation.
 
As much as I respect the AKs, I would say that a stainless Mini-14 is a top choice. It also has many other advantages over and AK or AR - being legal whether others are forbidden, or weight and non-threatening appearance and more compact size, especially with stock removed - which takes a few seconds.
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Yeah - well - except he wants reliable and I imagine able to hit a paper plate at a 100 yards or so even after firing 30 or 40 rounds. :evil:
 
Yes, Galil Mags--mine came with 2 35rd steel/metal ones. One looked new and one looked like it had been used...by savages. Both work fine. (Do metal galil mags work unmodified in unmodified Saigas? Thought I heard that...but don't know.)

I tried a .223 Yugo mag, but it doesn't appear to work--seems to loose, up front in the trunnion where there's nothing you can really do about it.

I want to get some orlites--they're a lot cheaper than metal mags and lots of folks say they're just as good/better anyway. A century uses IMI parts and seems to be interchangeable across the board.

I've heard of a couple of complaints with the Century assembly (and their rep is spotty, at beast) but I guess I got lucky--It's definitely one of my favorites (and I have a few! :) )
 
I haven't shot everything in the world but: My HK 93 (preban) has NEVER missed a beat with any ammo,any amount, EVER. The NUMEROUS ARs I've used over the years (67-2007)cannot say that! I really don't think the AKs other than the Galil or possibly the Valmet are that great with .223 format, from what I've seen.
 
Just like the title says.... and are the Arsenal AK's chambered in .223 as reliable as a regular AK? Will they take most any ammo (even wolf?)

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Assault rifle? Are you planning to buy a select fire, fully automatic capable carbine?

If not, we should stop throwing around that term where it doesn't need to be used ;) The news already does that enough for us.
 
Well

I'll vote for either a Daewoo K2/DR200 or a Valmet/Galil.

It is interesting to note that both the Daewoo and Galil/Valmet are two of the best folding stocks put on a rifle ever.

Nice things about the Daewoo
Uses M16/AR mags
Good Sights
Setup to have an optic rail mounted directly to the receiver
Gas Piston with adjustable gas valve
Excellent folding stock (DR200 has a thumbhole). When locked up is indistinguishable from a fixed stock.
And yes they are very reliable and don't seem to care about being clean

You think of Daewoo and craptastical cars and TVs come to mind, but their guns are top notch.

I think it would be easier and less expensive to find a decent Daewoo than a Galil. No special mags required. Buy a K2 and then get a DR200 to have for spare parts (if you ever need them).
 
most of those fine sport utility rifles based on the GALIL are going for around $700-$900 around here, yugo AKs are running $600-$700. I went the 7.62 AK and 5.56 20" AR route, my cousin bought a GALIL but if I had it to do over again I would probably have gone for the galil and spent the rest on all that cheap 5.56 ammo 5 years ago. The Daewoo does sound tempting though, havent seen any locally though, and only 1 GALIL presently for sale locally that I am aware of, but they pop up every so often.
 
I wouldn't buy any rifle that didn't have a good availability for spare parts. The Daewoo is just a version of the Colt piston rifle they developed in the 1970s. Try to find any parts for one though.

I like the Galil, but if I were shopping for a non-AR STHF rifle, I'd pick an AK. Parts, magazines, proven in combat. What's not to like?
 
Dr200

Truthfully the DR200 is about a $600ish rifle. I bought one for $400 a couple years ago, and have passed up a few right around $600.

I don't understand the high optic rails. I made myself a low one, and a red dot co-witnesses the irons just perfectly.

I put 3000 rounds of mixed headstamp crap through mine with zero cleanings on the lowest gas setting. Not a single issue of any kind.
 
I only know what I'm told and my California law makers say anything with a pistol grip is the most deadliest
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whoops deadliest reliable sorry
 
Going by the definitions of assault and aggravated assault wouldn't it be an aggravated assault rifle. Sorry, I had to go there.

A weapon is only an assault weapon if used for that purpose, so going with that, a sling shot can be an assault weapon or even a straw with spit balls. Can't tell the gun grabbers that though. In my opinion the assault needs to be dropped from weapon descriptions.

OK, back on subject, I believe some of the AR style rifles are very good. Can't say about the arsenal ak in .223 though no experience with them.
 
Wrong - it's only an asault rifle if it's a select fire carbine capable of sustaining fully automatic fire.
 
BTW, I'm not sure who suggested the FAMAS, but I was not impressed. I'm told the delayed blowback system is barely adequate for 223 pressures as well. Come on guys, this was designed by the same country that gave us the Chauchat.

As soon as I get my web server back online, I'll post some pictures.

As far as the AR, or lack thereof, while most consider the AR15/M16 a fairly reliable system in it's present form, it in no way make the list of 'most reliable' - particularly under difficult conditions.
 
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I converted my saiga for around 375 dollars, and that's including the rifle price. It takes Galil magazines quite easily. The only thing I have to do to the Orlites is dremel off a little bit of shoulder and they fit snug.

The saiga is worth it, and I've never had a problem with it.
 
The sweet spot of reliability, accuracy, durability, and price has got to be the Saiga.
 
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