Most Ill informed Anti-gun Letter to the Editor Ever?

[Winchester 73]

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http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_8800591

The founders and guns
Public Forum Letter
Article Last Updated: 04/03/2008 06:10:53 PM MDT


Our founding fathers created many laws based on common decency and common sense. So let's set aside the mountain of evidence that proves promiscuous gun laws produce a dangerous and violent America, and simply address the gun issue by applying common decency and common sense.
We have created a society where handguns are as common as Coca-Cola, where thousands wander the streets with concealed weapons willing to shoot to kill and committed to shoot first and ask questions later, where bullets that explode on contact and literally blow up the victim are legal, and where assault weapons capable of killing an entire platoon are readily available.
Can anyone in their wildest imagination believe that the founding fathers had this decadence in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment? Were they willing to sacrifice the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of countless thousands of victims for the unlimited right to bear arms for a small number who disdain the discipline of a militia (National Guard)?
What is there to debate? Common decency and common sense demand the right to control deadly weapons.

Ron Molen
Salt Lake City

 

[rocinante]

Ron Molen needs to lay off the first shooter video games for a while. Doesn't he have a pimple problem to cure?

 

[Kind of Blued]

WOOOWWWW.

That guy is IGNORANT!

 

[BlazingAngel01]

Why is it if I try a will written article in the news paper I get a Thank you letter and then nothing, they let the Idiots get one in:banghead:. He has nothing, come on.

 

[Feud]

Well, this is The Salt Lake Tribune we are talking about...

 

[The Scout]

Wow, and I thought the fact that I played these types of video games was bad realism, here this guy is believing in them...

 

[Mr White]

<Mr White shakes head in disgust>

 

[bloodedsky]

Well, he raises a good point: What would the writers of the Constitution think of such weaponry?

It's an interesting question to ponder.

 

[Winchester 73]

It's an interesting question to ponder.

First Amendment wise,what would they think of the telegraph,telephone,motion pictures,radio,television,cellphone and the internet?

 

[R127]

Well, he raises a good point: What would the writers of the Constitution think of such weaponry?

It's an interesting question to ponder.

Ships armed with cannon were the strategic weapons of their day. They were fine with ordinary citizens owning them. In fact insurance companies REQUIRED that ships covered by their policies had to be armed with a minimum number of cannons of a specified minimum size as a deterent to piracy. It's safe to believe they would be fine with our repeating rifles.

 

[Deanimator]

Ron Molen needs to lay off the first shooter video games for a while. Doesn't he have a pimple problem to cure?

Well, them and the crystal meth.

He's the kind of guy I used to LOVE to deal with in usenet. You just start asking him factual questions, refusing to let him change the subject or weasel out. You repeatedly quote back his own lies and factual errors. Then they come unglued. If you're not White or Christian, they usually exit with some kind of racial/religious slur and or threat. You keep an archive of their lies and bigotry, liberally citing them as evidence of the character of gun control advocates. It's often amusing to use especially vile quotes in your signature file. If you get emailed threats, post them.

Generally, observers draw the appropriate conclusions.

 

[Zundfolge]

where bullets that explode on contact and literally blow up the victim are legal

I Want!

Where can I get these bullets?

Sound like Martian bullets (read Edgar Rice Borroughs' Martian Tales) ... just gimme a box and call me John Carter thankyouverymuch

 

[Deanimator]

Wow, and I thought the fact that I played these types of video games was bad realism, here this guy is believing in them...

I once saw a guy in usenet attempt to cite a Batman comic as justification for gun control. I think I said something to the effect of how anyone who'd base social policy on a comic book not only shouldn't be allowed to own a gun; they probably shouldn't be allowed to sign legally binding documents or own anything more dangerous than a plastic spork. This seemed to incense him...

 

[Deanimator]

I Want!

Where can I get these bullets?

Sound like Martian bullets (read Edgar Rice Borroughs' Martian Tales) ... just gimme a box and call me John Carter thankyouverymuch

Actually, it sounds more like E.E. "Doc" Smith's "Skylark of Space" series. His heroes fight the aliens with Garands and Thompsons firing "explosive copper" bullets with the apparent power of 57mm Bofors rounds. After one gunfight, the author describes a "fine green mist" as being the only remnants of the other side. I always thought that'd make a great movie.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Well, he raises a good point: What would the writers of the Constitution think of such weaponry?

They'd probably wish they had them in their day. They are pretty clear in all the other records that they wanted the citizens to have the same weaponry as the standing army for defense of the state AND to ensure the government doesn't have all the power. I bet Ron dislikes a lot of things about the government as well, yet he wants them to own all the guns? When your strongest defense against an out of control gov't is limited to punching out a chad on a ballot you have already given away your freedom and you deserve whatever they decide to stick you with.

 

[MarkDido]

Well, he raises a good point: What would the writers of the Constitution think of such weaponry?

It's an interesting question to ponder.

If the Founders were alive today, and could see how much power that the Federal Government has usurped from the States, they would be appalled.

 

[Feud]

If the Founders were alive today, and could see how much power that the Federal Government has usurped from the States, they would be appalled.

Not all of them, the High Federalists probably wouldn't mind very much. That Aaron Burr was a rascal!

 

[lvcat2004]

bullets that explode on contact and literally blow up the victim are legal, and where assault weapons capable of killing an entire platoon are readily available.

I think he's been playing Halo too much, and is stuck on stupid.

 

[230RN]

And he's probably majoring in Journalism... [sigh]...

 

[hopelessjoe]

If this was Applied Intelligence and Logic 101 he would get a double f minus on his paper and be sent back to the first grade in rural Arkansas to start over.

What was it that Einstein said about hydrogen and stupidity....

 

[hopelessjoe]

Another thought just popped up. Utah is a very gun friendly state. Maybe this this was a bad attempt at humor by the paper by publishing this nonsense.

 

[TAB]

where do we get these bullets that explode on contact and blow up the target? I want some.

 

[mekender]

Can anyone in their wildest imagination believe that the founding fathers had this decadence in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment?

can anyone imagine what the founding fathers would think about "art" displays that show urinating on the bible, or massive pornography stores full of some of the most disturbing fetishes imaginable?... how would they think about the first amendment knowing that it had been used to allow those things to happen?

 

[Dookie]

Well, he raises a good point: What would the writers of the Constitution think of such weaponry?

It's an interesting question to ponder.

Could anyone imagine what one single soldier could do with an M16 in one of those early battles. 3,4,500 yards shots would make him almost invincible against even the best enemy soldiers.

 

[JCMAG]

This fellow makes good points that cannot be argued. His logic is incredible, clearly he is a genius.

However, I am having a problem understanding one point that is implicite in his article.

If the country is filled with people toting devestating weapons of warfare, most of which by his description are too large and powerful to be carried by single men and filled with ammunition that makes people explode, and that they are everywhere shooting first and asking questions later, and this is entirely dangerous and unacceptable and violence has gripped the country...

How is he alive to tell us about it? How are any of us alive to read about it? How is it, with violent men with violent weapons roaming the streets at will with, apparently, the weapons of mass destruction that Sadam Hussein forgot, that violent crime is at a 30 year low?

Suddenly, he ain't a genius anymore.