Most powerful Glock?

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I've been wanting a .44 mag for the "just in case" outdoor scenario. Well more like "I just want another pistol" thing.

If I get a .44 mag, I think it'll be a Ruger Redhawk.

But then I came accross http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.40_Super

Could this be true? This seems like a real wicked round. I already saw that LWD has these http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=274250&CAT=241

Would that be the strongest Glock? Or are/is there another round that can be chambered in Glocks that hit harder than the 40 super?
 
What criteria are you using to determine how powerful it is? Velocity? Knock down power?

The 10mm is also a great glock with plenty of knockdown power.
 
Guncrafters Inc offers a .50GI conversion for the Glock 20/21. From my understanding it has similar recoil to the .45ACP but has a lot more energy.

For stock Glocks id say the 10mm offerings are pretty potent.
 
Out of the .50GI, 10mm, 9x25 Dillon and the 40 super that can all be fired out of Glocks, all the numbers I see on the web shows the 40 super producing the most energy at any given distance. But that's just internet numbers.

Anyone have any playtime with the 40 super? Or knows of these extreme rounds?
 
From what data I see for .40 super factory loads it looks like any edge it holds over 10mm is margional at best. Especially compared to full bore Norma level 10mm loadings.

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The powerful STOCK Glock? The 10mm, hands down. I do not own one, so no fan boy here guys!! ;)
 
I hot rod handload hanguns for a hobby, so I know the answer for handloads that I load until the primer falls out:

1) 45acp
2) 40sw
3) 9x23
4) 10mm
5) 9mm
6) 7.62x25mm
7) 357 Sig
8) 380
9) 32acp
10) 25acp

But all of them can generate more recoil than you can take, even the 10mm and 25acp with weak case heads.
 
The 10mm should use the same bullet as the .40 Super but the .40 Super will send it faster. The 10mm has some serious punch so a Glock 20 is a good bet if you want a stock gun. The .40 Super sits right around the middle of the energy levels produced by various .44Mag rounds (excluding the +P) so you're definitely in good shape for outdoors defense use. The 10mm at its hottest load is around even with the weakest .44 Magnum loads so it will do the job but I'd hate to face a particularly large dangerous animal with one.

The .40 Super will definitely have the edge in penetration over the 10mm which is useful for getting through thick hide and muscle.
 
Wow. I'd never heard of .40 Super. When I read it, I figured you were talking about a .400 Corbon. But .40 Super looks like it really IS super!!!! Thats a pretty big energy round right there!
 
If you want true .44 magnum power out of an auto pistol, get the Redhawk or Super Redhawk. ;) As for the most powerful stock Glock, that would be the G20 with full power 10mm loads. It has a larger frame and slide to handle those, unlike the .40-caliber G22. I would much rather have 10mm, where you can at least order ammunition, than any proprietary ammo, each of which is loaded like a miniature hand grenade. :scrutiny:
 
I will still get a .44 mag later on in the future to add to my collection, but tinking with the idea of shooting 40 super intrigues me.

I can't find anywhere that shows 10mm numbers being close to that of the 40 super.
I found a tons of videos that show 10mm being weaker than the numbers floating out there on the web.
ex:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjhupTsuolo Apparently Double Taps that are rated at 1400 fps averages only 1150 fps.
I can only assume that a 40 super that uses same bullets but can hold more gun powder has to hit harder.

I beginning to be convinced that a 40 super is the hardest hitting round out of a Glock presently, unless someone shows me otherwise.

the top 3 choices are:

45 Super
45 Super Ammo - 185 gr. J.H.P.(1,300fps/M.E.694 ft.lbs.)
45 Super Ammo - 200 gr. J.H.P.(1,200fps/M.E.639 ft.lbs.)
45 Super Ammo - 230 gr. J.H.P.(1,100fps/M.E.618 ft.lbs.)
45 Super Ammo - 255 gr. Hard Cast FN (1,075fps/M.E. 654 ft.lbs.)

(next 2 caliber being off of Double Taps website, I would subtract about 200ft/sec to get a realistic figure)

40 Super
Ballistics : 135gr. Nosler J.H.P. 1755fps / 923 ft.lbs.
Ballistics : 180gr. Nosler J.H.P. 1450fps / 841ft.lbs.
Ballistics : 200gr. FMJ Flat Point 1350fps / 810ft.lbs.

9x25 Dillon
Ballistics : 125gr. FMJ 1700fps / 802 ft.lbs
(Probably grossly inflated numbers)
Ballistics: 147gr. 1495fps/ 733 ft.lbs
(Probably grossly inflated numbers)

50GI
Can't find anything. Translation = useless round if I can't even buy it.
 
My vote for the most powerful has to the Glock 18.

33 rounds of full-auto 9mm gives a combined 11,253 ft/lb muzzle energy.

15 rounds of 10mm gives only 7,350 ft/lb.

rc
 
The ammo cost and availability are insane. And I have my suspicions about how safe this is. How can they get those power levels out of that cartridge but not a .400 Corbon? I think it is either dangerous, exaggerated, or a little bit of both.

Seriously, what is it you want it to do a 10mm can't do?
 
Rc you can put the Kris's extension on a 21 or 20 Mag and be at 30 and 33 rounds respectively
 
I've long been intrigued by the .460 Rowland but never have given any serious thought of purchasing a pistol converted to fire it. From my understanding, it uses a case that externally appears similar to the .45 acp case, yet will launch a 200gr slug to about 1250 FPS for about 800 ft/lbs at the muzzle.

If Glock offered a pistol designed for this round, especially if a SF frame or single stack, I could see myself being curious enough to purchase it.

My current dedicated trail pistol is a Stery M40 and don't really feel the need for anything more powerful, but I admit to keeping my eyes open to the options that are out there (G20 SF and so forth).
 
.50 GI isn't in the same league as the hot auto rounds, it's in the .45 ACP and +P range. Shouldn't have more energy than normal .45+P, should have about the same amount as the ordinary ACP. It shoots stubby, light/short for caliber bullets at very low velocities. The Barnes bullet for it appears to get some good expansion, but I don't think it penetrates very well. That's a sacrifice that going too far in your caliber makes you take. It's like the 7.62x39 vs 5.56, sure, the 7.62 is 'bigger', but because the cartridges are in the intermediate class, you have to make a lot of sacrifices to get that 'bigger' bullet that in the end make the caliber somewhat less attractive.

The .50 GI is a little too wide for the pistol format it's made for, so you are limited to poorly penetrating low sectional density bullets or completely non-expanding bullets, which may be .50, sure, but they come with a lot of downsides and ultimately aren't as useful as a good expanding bullet from any of the leaner, more capable service calibers.

Doesn't the .40 Super/.400 Corbon type of cartridge perform really poorly with heavy for caliber bullets? I think I remember that they appear to surpass the 10mm in velocity numbers with lightweight bullets, but they are no better and possibly worse than the 10mm when they're loaded with heavyweight bullets. The examples posted above appear to only show 135 grain bullets, which jives with what I remember about them.
 
9x25 Dillon
Ballistics : 125gr. FMJ 1700fps / 802 ft.lbs
(Probably grossly inflated numbers)
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It isn't inflated. I'm getting 1650+ with a 115gr Hornady XTP. There isn't much casehead expansion and I'm going to go higher once spring comes. On the Glock Talk 10mm board, one guy is consistently getting 1800fps with his 115gr load.
 
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Seriously, what is it you want it to do a 10mm can't do?
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10mm is no substitute for a .44 mag and neither in the 40 super, but the 40 super does come a lot closer.

Shooting 10mm out of a Glock 21 requires a barrel + 10 mm mag(s) + the possible issue of having a larger breach face on a Glock 21.

Shooting 40 super would require just a barrel and maybe a stronger recoil spring

Shooting 9x25 dillon would require a barrel + 10 mm mag(s) + the issue of having a larger breach also.
 
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