Most Un-Tacticool Rifle....

[rbernie]

You want a non-tactical semiauto? The problem with most milsurps is they still look, well, military.

If you want a full power chambering, you're probably looking at a Remmie 742/7400/750, or a maybe a Saiga with wood furniture.

The Remmie 750:

An 18.5" 308 or 35 Whelen would make a dandy all-around rifle, so long as fast mag changes aren't on the agenda.

 

[MCgunner]

In my bedroom....

 

[mp510]

I was of the understanding that people with pending felony charges are ineligible to buy firearms.

 

[mp510]

I was of the understanding that people with pending felony charges are ineligible to buy firearms.

 

[boredelmo]

future planning.

Once Justice is served, i will be free to exercise my rights. But I've just come to the realization that thinking about firearms isn't a sin or illegal.

 

[mp510]

I guess it's good to have something to optimistically look forward to. I was just concerened you were looking for something for the immediate.

Hopefully the courts will rule in your favor if your actions were just.

 

[jpwilly]

I guess I'm looking at C&R stuff, but i have no idea where to start.

Semi Autos: SKS, Ruger Mini 14 (wood stock) Browning BAR, M1, M1 Carbine. Bolt: Enfield, Springfield Mauser, Nagant - In that order. Single Shot: Rolling block, Rossi Trifecta? Anyway many non Tacticool stuff but I prefer a few "evil" rifles.

 

[hank327]

I think an M1 carbine would fit the bill perfectly for a semi-auto home defense rifle. Short, light, and handy in a not too powerful a cartridge. After all, it was developed with the intent to replace the 1911 as the personal defense weapon of noncombatant troops in WWII.

 

[Samuraigg]

I would say the Garand, but I definitely wouldn't want to use one for home defense. Can you say "over penetration?" Great for an overall SHTF rifle though.

The M1 Carbine could be a good choice, but keep in mind some areas do already ban them, and they are starting to get on the lists for potential AWBs. At least they don't look evil.

I would have to say go with a pump 12ga shotgun.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

I'll put in another vote for M1 Carbine or .357 levergun.

Have you handled an M1 Carbine? They're so tiny as to look almost more like a .22 than a centerfire. I've seen Planfields at the SAXET gunshow last year for $325-375 if you're lucky. If you go for an M1 Carbine, do some advance reading so you don't get a Universal or other undesirable variant/clone.

I've only seen two used .357 leverguns on the shelf in Austin while I was there, and one Marlin got snatched up for $225 (not by me).


Did you sell your MAC semi already? That's plenty of evil and not terribly useful, could bring you some good pocket change for other purchases.

 

[The Annoyed Man]

Hmmm, perhaps you should review the video's of those defending their property during the so-called Rodney King riots. They used, that is to say fired, multiple magazines of rifle ammo.

Hey fastpat, I lived in L.A. during those riots. Most people didn't shoot anything. It is the PRC, where state gun laws have done all they can to make sure that the citizenry is largely disarmed, and the only people with guns are criminals or cops. What they mostly did was run like hell. Me? I carried a .45 and hoped for the best.

 

[Nolo]

The most un-tacticool gun ever? A smoothbore matchlock.
You could even get a multi-barreled version to pop off those multiple shots.

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Get yourself an old beat up 07 winchester. It makes an excellent house gun as you would probably be the only one who knows how to chamber a round. Most folks don't. That is a definate plus for a house gun. The down side is the ammo. Winchester quit loading the .351slr around the middle 1980's, so it's definately a reloading proposition. You can get brass and bullets - no problem. I bought a spare firing pin off ebay last year. After looking at it I decided it was pretty well unbreakable. It's massave, to say the least.

It's more powerful than a .357 from a rifle. Check it out on www.brassfetcher.com.

 

[phaed]

I still need something for HD, just in case.

so, you want something functional, but avoid guns that are the designed to exceed in these functions? i don't mean to be disrespectful, but it sounds like you are asking us to solve a dilemma you have created. i'm sure you have your reasons, but realize they are at odds with your request.

 

[coelacanth]

cogito ergo scattergun. . . . .

a 12 guage pump shotgun with wooden furniture. a .303 Enfield, probably a No.4 Mk1 and a .38/.357 cal. revolver. Anyone so armed and reasonably skilled in the use of same is not someone to be f----d with despite the fact that they do not ooze tacticoolness.

 

[JohnMcD348]

Cricket .22LR single shot

 

[Browning]

Alright, well I tried to follow the instructions by trying to imagine the exact opposite of and AR-15 with all the high speed vertical grips, tactical lights, E.O. Tech, rails, bipod, lasers, can opener, personal accountant etc. But at the same time have it be semi-auto which was one of the instructions.

boredelmo : I still need something for HD, just in case.

So think AR-15 with eotech, aimpoint, surefire, collapse stock, beta-c mag and think of the exact opposite of that.

Cheap, functional, prob prefer to stick to semi-auto.

This is what I came up with.

Remington Model 742



Either that or this.


Ruger Mini-14

So how did I do? Was that kind of what you were looking for?

 

[pinstripe]

tacticool

I love firearms, and I have collected quite a few, but I protect my home with the lowly Winchester model 120 12Ga. pump shotgun. If ever my property is in need of defense, hopefully the sound of the pump shotgun chambering a "OO" buckshot will scare the intruder away. Can you imagine the sound of a pump shotgun to an intruder who knows he is in the wrong place doing the wrong things. Rack the slide and put him outside.
Most juries still associate shotguns with Uncle Jed and overalls. Let 'em keep thinking that way.
Later

 

[doc2rn]

I just bought an arisaka to redo to keep the moss 500a company, oh yeah wood looks better than tacticool

 

[mrmeval]

7.5x55 K31 Swiss Karabiner with surplus ammo it will do subMOA in many cases. I've seen where the polymer tipped bullets used in reloads do as well and are suitable for hunting.

SKS in a sporting stock and grind off anything that offends then add a five round magazine.

You can find a sporterized M1917 with nice wood. I have one in .30-06 but you can find them in larger calibers.

S&W eight shot .357 revolver.

 

[Zero Knives]

[hotair]
If I'm reaching for a rifle to defend my family and home, something has gone terribly wrong. To follow commandment 4, I'd have to memorize the layout of every house on my block...

I keep an unchambered 12GA stoked with RR buckshot locked but at hand and leave it at that. The ARs, AKs, Mosins and other military-oriented longarms sit quietly in the safe. A military/surplus arm was built for the most tactical evironment; hardly untacticool...

My personal belief is that rifles have no place in defending my castle, law and perception non-withstanding. I'm not going on the offensive; my best case scenario has me gathering my loved ones together in one place and defending that point with 911 recording every damn move. A defense scenario that can't be solved with a pistol or shotgun is rare in my book. Of course, without gobs of training, anything less than a bazooka and you're screwed...

The graduations of home defense don't start with Mongol hordes or even looters, in turn most of my limited mental capacity and budget is spent training myself for more likely events...

[/hotair]

 

[Samuraigg]

Don't they make 10 round magazines for the Remington Semi Automatic rifles? How reliable are those magazines?

With a 10 round magazine, they seem like a decent SD rifle that would never be on any AWB lists.

 

[KBintheSLC]

Don't use a center fire rifle for home defense unless you are prepared to pay mountains of cash for defense attorneys when you over-penetrate and kill your neighbors dog/kid/grandma. It is overkill to boot. Get a 12 gauge or a Glock 9mm or a nice revolver using .38ish. They do the job without testicular overcompensation.

 

[Paradiddle]

I would absolutely recommend a GI M1 Carbine. Light, very easy to shoulder in a small space, accurate out far enough, more then good stopping power and penetration at close range, uber cool.

I would also get a 12 gauge pump - an old 870 Wingmaster police gun, or a Winchester Model 12 Riot run, or an Ithaca DSPS police gun - something way cool with wood stocks.

The Garand is a beast - it is long and heavy. It would be great for zombies at 500 yards, but I wouldn't want to lug mine through my house. The Carbine is so much easier to handle.