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My “Price isn’t an Issue” Pick

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DaliGene

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My “Price isn’t an Issue” Pick

As a follow up to this thread, I’ve finally made my decision.

Before I give you my final range report, I’d like to first say that by “price isn’t an issue”, I mean that I did not factor in cost when making my decision. Some people see those words and assume I’m only looking at expensive pistols.

Also – I own rifles and shotguns and have for some time, but I am new to pistols with under a year of trigger time. I currently own a Sig P239 in .40 – it is a GREAT carry pistol. It’s only fault is my preference for a longer grip.

The Elimination Rounds:
I was fortunate enough to have a choice of over 20 pistols (to try) between a couple of friends. I’m not sure about other States, but in NY, this is great because there are few places that let you try every kind of pistol before you buy it.

Originally, I was looking for the magical pistol that does it all and quickly learned there is no such thing. I should have known as a long gun person that ‘a shotgun isn’t the best sniper weapon’. So I decided (after my first post here) that I would decide on a carry pistol and a bedside piece first.

Since I like the sig for carry, I was partial to the p220 as a full-size home defense pistol with a full grip (making it more fun at the range).

After trying quite a few pistols of different makes, I came up with my final line-up:

Although I didn’t like Glocks because I shot poorly with them and they felt weird to me, I kept 2 in the line-up so that I could compare everything else to them – this is due to their enormous popularity, so I wanted to see if there was something I was overlooking.

The H&K USP was a close runner-up.

This past weekend, I went with the final lineup, favoring three pistols: The Kimber Custom stainless, a Pro Carry and a Sig p220.

On the same day, I tried (and A/B’ed) my sig p239 as a familiar reference a Kahr in 9mm – also available were a 2 Glocks in 9 & .40.

My accuracy was best with my own gun (the p239) and all shots were fired at @ 25 ft, where I could get 2in. groups in DA and 1in. in SA.

The only two guns I could be that accurate with were the p220 and the Kimber, with the Kimber being the most accurate out of the two.

As time went on, switching back and fourth, I narrowed it down to the Kimber Pro Carry and the 220.

Why the Kimber won:

The fact that the operating system on the p220 is the same and would require no additional training ironically became the main reason I didn’t choose the pistol. I think learning more than one system would be more fun in the long run and offer me more diversity.

The other reasons:
The Kimber was hands down the most accurate weapon out of all the pistols tried. Even in the hands of my friend ho is competitive and my wife who has only a few hours total of experience – we all shot best with the Kimber.

The thing is very well constructed.

It feels best in my hand.

Although I gave up on this concept, it is actually the most diverse pistol of the bunch; although it is slightly longer than the p239, it actually conceals better, being a slimmer pistol. It was the most accurate and powerful concealable pistol in the test group.

So in the end, I actually ended up with a pistol that ‘does it all’ after all.

I’ll still carry the p239 until I’m competently trained with the 1911 and like both for different reasons.

Price isn’t bad:
I found the Pistol locally for @$680.

I’ll probably pick it up this week.

Thanks for the help on this one.

Gene
 
You dun good! It doesn't surprise me that you shot so accurately with the 1911. Good choice. I hope it serves you well.

I have only one 1911-style pistol, a full-size, fine-shooting and reliable DW Patriot. I never carry it, instead carrying either a Sig 228 or a USP compact 45. Truth is, though, I continually think about switching to the Patriot. I shoot well with all three, but me knows in me heart of hearts that the Patriot is the more accurate of the three. At least in my hands.
 
It would make no difference. I would still use a Kahr PM9 for CCW; Glock 17 for home defense; Para 16.40 and 18.9 LDA for USPSA, S&W 686-Plus for steel matches; Ruger 22/45 for plinking and a S&W K22 for small game hunting. :neener:
 
Although I didn’t like Glocks because I shot poorly with them and they felt weird to me, I kept 2 in the line-up so that I could compare everything else to them – this is due to their enormous popularity, so I wanted to see if there was something I was overlooking.
Man after my own heart. I had a Glock, thought I could go back and forth between the 1911 and the radically different Glock grip angle, but I couldn't. If you practice with your pistols, you get to a point that 90 to 95% of the aiming is done with muscle memory, you can look at a target, close your eyes, persent the gun to the target, open your eyes, and you should just have to do a LITTLE final sight alignment. Under stress or at night when you can't see your sights, this is what is going to save your life, that instinctive pointing. I went to the range one day, going to shoot from retention for the first drill, and shot WAY high with the Glock. I had been shooting the 1911 grip angle the last couple of trips. I pushed the gun towards the target, and I could see the whole top of the slide because of the steeper angle. There are people who can go back and forth, I'm just not one of them. Your " they felt weird to me" was your subconcious telling you that the the handle was the wrong angle, it was out of your comfort zone. Good choice on the Kimber, I have a SA and a Colt 1911, wouldn't sell either. Just resist all the doo-dads until you shoot it awhile.
 
Yea - I keep everything stock and simple and learn how to shoot it that way first.

I didn't upgrade ANYTHING on my rifles before I could hit the target accurately and consitently with wood stocks and iron sights.

I also wanted to mention that the choice I made was preference. The Glocks, although not my favorite, never failed in any way at any time during any of the tests.

In fact, none of them did - My Sig hates PMC ammo, but other than that, nothing failed except a little kel tec that was in the early line-up.
 
I think you made a good choice. Before you got to where you told us what you chose, I was thinking 'either Kimber sounds like ideal, and the Pro Carry will give some of the versatility he seems to want'. :D

1911s are sweet guns. The single stack narrow grip fits most hands, and with changing out of the grips and/or mainspring housing it can easily be adjusted for larger/smaller hands. Heck, even the trigger can be switched out for a longer/shorter trigger as needed, though this is harder for the average guy to do than the grips or mainspring housing. The grip angle is incredible. For many of us we find a good 1911 to be incredibly accurate (I am one of those who tend to shoot best on 1911s).

Nothing wrong with the SIG 220, but I think the 1911 is still the top auto on the market (yes, I finally think I can finally say unequivicably that I like it better than the CZs).
 
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