My 10/22

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TonyAngel

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Hey guys, I just thought I'd post my 10/22. It's been a work in progress for a while. I originally built it to shoot a local benchrest match, but it was never going to get me into master class, so I got a bolt gun.

Still, I incorporated some ideas into the build and just wanted to share them. All of the parts, except for the receiver are Kidd. The stock is a Boyd's Tacticool.

During the build, I did encounter some problems. This is how I overcame them.

The first problem that I had was that the stock is made of really soft wood. It wasn't very rigid in the action section and although it was tight when I first got it, it quickly loosened up. What I wanted was a rock solid fit with NO movement. I knew that I had to bed the action, but the common methods that I saw just weren't working for me. Most only bed the action at the very back end, with very little contact with the whole receiver. I wanted to bed the receiver from the ejection port back.

I tried to do as much of it as I could with common hand tools so that others could replicate the work. So, this is what I did...

I first drilled out the hole for the action screw and installed a helicoil to accommodate a 1/4-20 screw. I also used a file used to sharpen chainsaw chains to cut a small channel in the lug.
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The next thing I did was use the same file to cut a channel into the back of the receiver.
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I then installed the pillar and bedded the rear portion of the action. To do this, I actually milled out the rear portion of the stock where the action goes so that I could get a really thick layer of bedding. I used JB Weld and knew that it was going to be stronger than the wood. The bedding turned out to be about 1/8" thick all the way around.

If you look at the pic, you will notice that there is now a hump that fits into the channel that I cut in the rear of the receiver.
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Once I had the rear of the receiver bedded, I then bedded the lug area. You can see that the channel that I cut in the lug formed a sort of recoil lug.
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Now, it's rock solid. The barrel is completely free floated and there is zero movement in the action area.

This is the complete rifle. Forgive the Simmons scope. I sold the PST that I had on it and the scope that I tried to replace it with won't focus down the 50 yards, so I'm still looking.
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I should note that I had to use a sort of a weird method of bedding the receiver. I actually relieved the rear most area in stock where the action fits by an additional 1/2". That left a gaping gap at the rear of the receiver. When I bedded the receiver, I did it without the barrel installed. I then centered the action screw hole over the hole in the pillar and tightened it down. Once it's bedded, you don't want there to be tension on the action screw as you're screwing it in, so centering is pretty important. Once I had the action screw tight, I then taped up the underside of the action to keep the JB Weld from flowing through.

I then put the stock with the action in it in a vice at a 45* angle with the muzzle end pointing toward the floor. I then put a flood lamp over the rifle to get it all good and warm. The point was to keep the JB Weld in a state that would allow it to flow. I then started feeding the JB Weld into the area at the rear of the receiver and let it flow down both sides of the receiver. Once I had everything filled, I just leveled out the receiver and the JB Weld leveled itself out. I had very little cleaning up to do when it was done.

Oh, I used neutral shoe polish as a releasing agent to keep the JB Weld from sticking to the receiver as I was doing this.
 
What kind of groups were you getting before and now? What ammo too.
I picked up a scope to try on my ruger custom that I thought I would never own. A BSA 30mm tactical 6-24 power that has side adjustment down to 10 yards. 149 bucks at midway. Works well for a fun gun . I also have a 24 and 18 power weaver t series but they to don't work a 25 yards.

I like what you did at the rear of your reciever and stock. Nice job. Looks like a couple inchs of barrel bearing also?
 
hardluk1, actually there is no bedding under the barrel at all, although it may look like it. The barrel is completely free floated.

As for groups, I don't spend much time shooting groups any more. I'm more concerned about how many times I can keep the shot in the 100 ring on an ARA target and this is affected as much by the quality of the parts and ammunition as it is by the way the build is put togther and how it behaves through transitions. There are 25 individual targets on an ARA card, so you have to move the rifle 25 times for each card. This is the real test of a rifle's consistency.

In any case, I have shot several informal groups for the purposes of getting a zero everytime I change ammunition or when conditions change. On a calm day, it will put five rounds of Eley Match through a hole the size of a dime most of the time at 50 yards. My preferred bulk ammunition is Federal Auto Match and with that it will keep most of the rounds in a hole the size of a quarter at 50 yards. I was shooting shotgun shell hulls at 100 yards with it yesterday and was getting hits maybe 3 or 4 out of five tries. It shoots really well.

My rifle holds the record at my range for the highest score ever shot with a 10/22 at the benchrest match with a score of 7200 out of 7500 over three ARA target cards. It shoots pretty darned well.

Mind you, I'm running my trigger at 9 oz though.
 
TonyAngel, being aware of the "how to do it better" ailment, why didn't you just pin the rear of the action. Too easy, huh?
Your approach to "lugs' will probably influence some of the builders as a neat way to stabilize the barreled action.
Is the barrel/receiver threaded? Or just an adjustable V-block? Are you concerned about barrel droop otherwise?
Mine is pinned rear, pillar bedded action screw, AND another pillar bedded barrel adjustment screw/bolt about 4"s in front of the action screw.
On a good day with CCI Mini Mags it will get 3/4" at 50 yards.
Adjustable sear is the only aftermarket piece in the receiver. 2#s no creep. E. R. Shaw bull. Headspaced. Torsion bar and all the other cheap tricks.
 
Red Cent, believe me, I'm all about good and easy. I would have loved to have just pinned the action or installed a rear pillar. My concern was that I didn't want to induce any stress into the receiver as a result of doing transitions, so I didn't want to have any sort of attachment point on the receiver that wasn't parallel to the lug attachment.

Of course, after all was said and done, I realized that I could also have just cut a vertical slot on the rear of the receiver and epoxied a threaded pillar there and used that as a second attachment point on the rear of the receiver; but then again, that would still have left me with the need to bed the action, so I think I'm good with what I have.

I'm not using any special V-block. Just the stock one. As I mentioned above, I'm using a Kidd barrel, and although it isn't threaded, it is a press fit and it tight. I only have just enough torque on the screws to keep the barrel from moving forward, which is around 10 in-lbs. Not much at all. I don't have any problems at all with barrel droop. In fact, I can squeeze the barrel and forearm together and can't make them touch each other. It's pretty solid.

This has, to date, resulted in the best performance that I've gotten from a stock 10/22 receiver.
 
Nice job TonyAngel. As always your write up and pic's are top notch. I also have a Boyds Tacticool stock on my 10/22, I may try your bedding and lugs technique this winter when there is 6 feet of snow outside.
 
Thanks guys. I was going to sell it after I got my bolt gun, but I have too much of my soul in it, so I'm going to keep it. This is going to be my play toy. I found out that my rifle shoots pretty well with CCI Subsonic, being able to hit a golf ball at 100 yards using a bipod most of the time. I found the CCIs for $26 a brick and ordered a case of the stuff.

This build really makes me want to try to start up a little silhouette match.
 
A man of many talents; nice unique job Tony.

totally.

ive been watching this thread from work all day but cant post from there >:-(

these little mods are very interesting to me. ive got a 1022 that is really accurate and the bedding and receiver mods are too cool man.

i still have my original walnut stock, but of course my .920 barrel wont fit into it. im thinking about trying to relieve the stock enough to accept the target barrel and then try some bedding of my own. i wonder if i could use some fiberglass re-enforced epoxy with my old wood stock, maybe just to practice on?

right now i have mine in a hogue rubber overmolded stock, and its ok but ive never really warmed up to it to be honest.
 
Bryan, I do believe that the reason why most people only bed the very back of the receiver is that bedding more than that is really difficult due to the verticle sides. I tried bedding the receiver the conventional way of applying the bedding compound and then pressing the receiver into the stock to let it set. The problem is that there isn't a whole lot of room so most of the bedding gets scraped away and you wind up with a very uneven bedding job with lots of voids in it.

This is why I used JB Weld and the heat lamp so that I could use something that I could flow into the nooks and crannies. By flowing it from the rear, I got really even coverage with no voids.

I guess my point is that you should be ok, as long as what you're using is more in the form of a viscous liquid, rather than a paste or gel.

I've been wanting to try Liquid Steel (either Loctite or Devcon, can't remember which), but it's kind of expensive and I don't know how liquid it is. For now, the JB Weld is working, so I'll worry about it later.
 
I guess my point is that you should be ok, as long as what you're using is more in the form of a viscous liquid, rather than a paste or gel.

well, to be honest the stuff im talking about is more of a paste.

if i use jb weld, do i bed it and then press the action down into it? is there some kind of releasing agent that you use so you dont glue the thing together?
 
Bryan, putting the bedding material in the stock and then pressing the action down into it will leave voids in the bedding. It's nearly impossible to press the action down into the stock with scraping the bedding material away in some areas.

I cut an area away in the stock at the rear of the action channel. This acted like a funnel that allowed me to pour the JB Weld in and let it flow to the rest of the areas that needed to be filled.
 
Tony,
If by liquid steel you mean the Devcon Plastic Steel Putty 10110 it flows about like peanut butter. I might have some left over if you want to try some. I can show you some of how various epoxies worked on my stuff.
 
Oh, I used neutral shoe polish as a releasing agent to keep the JB Weld from sticking to the receiver as I was doing this.

i completely missed that when i read it the first time, and like an idiot i asked this
is there some kind of releasing agent that you use so you dont glue the thing together?
(i was paying too much attention to the pics :D )
 
Ok, so Devcon has the plastic steel putty; then it must be a loctite product that I have in mind. What caught my attention was the "liquid" part in the name, because I had the 10/22 in mind when it caught my eye.
 
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