My interview with Brady....admits they are ANTI GUN!

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

This video has gotten some pretty good hits in the last few days, and I wanted to share it with you guys.
This was at an Open Carry event in Pasadena, CA. The Brady campaign came to protest against the South Bay Open Carry group. They went as far as calling the restaurant that was supposed to be serving them, and conned the poor manager into asking the OC guys to move to another venue. They ended up going to Cheese Cake Factory, and they where treated with a smile.

Anyways, so this Brady gentleman was walking around in front of the group, so I grabbed my camera, and played the "Why do these people have guns" role.
The first thing out of his mouth is admitting that the Bradys are anti gun (not that we didn't know that already), and he says people who Open Carry are arrogant, and even admits that it is near impossible to get a CCW in Los Angeles County.

I am not sure how to embed youtube videos, but her is the link. Feed back appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwcQgUv05Yw


Thank you,
Andrew Mendez

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[Davey Wavey]

Wait, in California open carry is only legal if the gun is unloaded?

Also, unbulleted? Oh man, that's rich. You can't make up stuff like that. Wait, he just did!

 

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

haha, Yup. Loaded Open Carry became illegal after the black panthers walked up to the Capital many moons before I was born. CCW's are in the works, and if my predictions are right. California may be the state that flips CCW's to a Nation standard, that can not be trampled on by any state.

 

[MagnumDweeb]

If folks could carry concealed then open carry wouldn't be such a controversy I believe. Florida here just lost its chance, I'm quite sad about it, but if California went to a may issue stance for law abiding folks then they would derail the open carry movement. The fence sitters would just stand back and say "what you can carry concealed, isn't that enough for you already." And so the open carry folks would just appear to be full of hot air to the rest of the fence sitters out there. If the antis wanted folks to stop carrying openly they could just let folks carry concealed.

 

[Unistat]

...and if my predictions are right. California may be the state that flips CCW's to a Nation standard, that can not be trampled on by any state.

Gah! I hope not! I do not want to have to meet what California would consider "standard" for CC. Ten round limit on magazines and what not.

 

[ForumSurfer]

Gah! I hope not! I do not want to have to meet what California would consider "standard" for CC. Ten round limit on magazines and what not.

I agree. My state has horrible concealed carry laws as it is, no need to add California type legislature. I like to keep my ccw weapons fully-bulletted, thank you very much.

 

[Finch]

admits they are ANTI GUN

Now if we could only get the Sun to admit that its hot....

 

[coloradokevin]

Interesting way you approached that, but it isn't as if the Brady Campaign has been trying to deny that they are anti-gun. Even their mission statement makes their philosophy pretty clear:

Mission Statement

We are devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities.

The Brady Campaign works to pass and enforce sensible federal and state gun laws, regulations, and public policies through grassroots activism, electing public officials who support common sense gun laws, and increasing public awareness of gun violence. Through our Million Mom March and Brady Chapters, we work locally to educate people about the dangers of guns, honor victims of gun violence, and pass sensible gun laws, believing that all Americans, especially children, have the right to live free from the threat of gun violence.

The Brady Center works to reform the gun industry by enacting and enforcing sensible regulations to reduce gun violence, including regulations governing the gun industry. In addition, we represent victims of gun violence in the courts. We educate the public about gun violence through litigation, grassroots mobilization, and outreach to affected communities.

 

[alsaqr]

Interesting way you approached that, but it isn't as if the Brady Campaign has been trying to deny that they are anti-gun.

Bingo!!!

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

 

[Justin]

It's kind of amazing how the most virulently anti-gun people claim that they are not, in fact, anti-gun or anti-gun owner.

They will denigrate gun owners to their face, denounce any attempt to change even the most draconian or useless gun laws, fight against concealed and open carry, campaign against laws that allow a person to defend their life in their home or vehicle, make outrageous claims that the ability and right to own various classes of rifles, pistols, or shotguns, make ridiculous demands of gun owners, and act in every way possible to deny an inalienable civil right, but if you ask them if they're anti-gun, they will tell you "no."

 

[btz]

He says that only a few "executives" in LA county got CCW permits... And he seems perfectly comfortable that they are given more right to protect their rights than the average citizen.

 

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

unistat, sorry for the late response. I am not sure if you are familiar with what is going on in California right now, but the CalGuns Foundation is currently working on a lawsuit involving free trade, that will render the 10 round limit unenforceable. I would assume it would make National headlines, also, free trade is federal, not state, so everyone would be able to use it, so no more limits Nation wide by the end of summer. You can quote me on that.

 

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

coloradekevin, the Brady folks time and time again, try and get the average citizen to agree with them by stating they only want common sense gun laws. They have never said they are "anti-gun" just anti crime. One of Paul Helmkes biggest fights is proving they are Anti gun, so when I was able to con a member into admitting that on camera, it made me smile. I posted it on youtube as there is a good amount of FUD about support for the Bradys, when in fact, they have difficulty having people show up at their events.
A common thing among the Bradys is "I own a handgun, (or a rifle, or I hunt, or target practice, etc) but I am in favor of stronger gun control"
Its just another leg they attempt to stand on.

 

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

btz, I thought that part was interesting as well. Obviously he thinks they are superior to you and I? Unfortunately, that area of California is heavily liberal (about 75%), and voting for a conservative who won't write up bs bills like this, is difficult to say the least.
One of the things I find most odd, is the area this guy covers is actually one of the nicer and crime free areas in the state. Not to mention, their has been zero incidents with Open Carriers.

 

[rromeo]

Gah! I hope not! I do not want to have to meet what California would consider "standard" for CC. Ten round limit on magazines and what not.

You are misreading the statement. I take the meaning that folks in California will lead the way for change in the few holdout states that are may issue or no-issue. Similar to DC and Chicago incorporarting the 2nd Amendment.

Also, there is no ten round limit for magazines when carrying.

 

[Manco]

Wait, in California open carry is only legal if the gun is unloaded?

Yes, but like the interviewee also said, you can carry ammo at the same time as long as it's not in the gun. I guess that's supposed to make people safer from law-abiding mass-murderers who would be delayed a few seconds while they slap in the first of many 10-round magazines. The real purposes, of course, are to make guns less useful for self-defense, which generally discourages people from carrying, and to give judges at every level an excuse to deny concealed carry (which also only prevents self-defense rather than illegal activities). Thus far, this strategy has worked perfectly at every level, although if it fails at the top, then the anti-gunners in California will have won every battle but still lost the war (one can hope).

If folks could carry concealed then open carry wouldn't be such a controversy I believe. Florida here just lost its chance, I'm quite sad about it, but if California went to a may issue stance for law abiding folks then they would derail the open carry movement.

Do you mean shall issue? Anyway, unfortunately there is always going to be some give & take between open and concealed carry wherever firearms are controversial because of the notion that only one method is required to pass constitutional muster.

The fence sitters would just stand back and say "what you can carry concealed, isn't that enough for you already." And so the open carry folks would just appear to be full of hot air to the rest of the fence sitters out there.

While I'd prefer to have both open and concealed carry, if I had to choose between the two, it would be concealed because I consider it more pragmatic. I wish open carry proponents the best, though.

If the antis wanted folks to stop carrying openly they could just let folks carry concealed.

They don't want either, and if they can pass ridiculous laws like California's unloaded open carry, then they can pretty much achieve their goal of limiting self-defense using firearms (whatever they may believe their goals are), unless SCOTUS rules otherwise in the wake of Heller and McDonald, which is what we're counting on.

Interesting way you approached that, but it isn't as if the Brady Campaign has been trying to deny that they are anti-gun. Even their mission statement makes their philosophy pretty clear:

Our interpretation is clear, but they still do not officially and explicitly admit to being anti-gun, just against gun violence.

He says that only a few "executives" in LA county got CCW permits... And he seems perfectly comfortable that they are given more right to protect their rights than the average citizen.

Not to delve too deeply into pop psychology, but there are some common personality types that appear to innately favor class structures and privileges for the few, even if they themselves are not in the elite class. That's why such systems can exist for any length of time at all, I think. It's nothing that couldn't be overcome through learning and experience, but some people are particularly resistant to learning.

Also, there is no ten round limit for magazines when carrying.

That is true for those in California who own standard-capacity magazines from before the ban, but obtaining them in any manner now is illegal, so for these folks effectively the limit is 10 rounds (+1 in the chamber for autoloaders) regardless of whether they carry.

 

[ANDREWMENDEZ]

rremeo, yes, you nailed it. I do believe California will lead the way.


Manco, you are good.

 

[Shadow 7D]

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/Facts/2010-09_GBA_Overview_FINAL.pdf

Gees, not a single 'Original piece of research in the whole thing...
And they don't do a per-capita, Humm, wonder if that would change the results, nor do they quantify how the numbers of 'gun murders' are counted in other countries.
gotta love lying with numbers.

Oh well, just think of all the spam and junk mail and telemarketers (don't call list doesn't apply-- 'affiliated marketing') their donors get.

 

[Axel Larson]

Good job doing the interview, showing people just how misinformed and ignorant these people are can help disprove their arguments. Unbulleted classic stuff, he had no idea what he was talking about.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I am tempted to use OMG sarcasticly but I really am not surprised at all. Is magenta a good color for snarkiness?

Next the Women's Christian Temperance Union will admit that, to Carrie Nation, "temperance" meant "prohibition".

 

[Colonel]

Somebody should give Paul Helmke an "upper" to go with his "lower."

What's up with this guy's jaw?