My M1 Garand purchase

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Hello. I'm new to this forum and wanted to share this M1 Garand story. My 35 year old son has been a history buff for many years. And of course he has watched all the WWII movies, both real and movie screen i.e. Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers etc. But the one thing that always caught his eye was the M1 Garand. And he always said he wished he could at least shoot one, to know what it's like to feel its power, to respect it, to pay honor to those who had to use it, and to hear that famous "ping" sound upon clip ejection.
Well, at 35, he will be graduating with his masters degree in spring of 2012 and I really wanted to get him something special. Something he would appreciate and keep for the years to come. And so I found a really nice M1 with a serial number placing it manufactured in March, 1943. I found it on Gunbroker.com and I think I got a good deal at 750.00. Of course, it has the etching on the barrel tip of CIA Imports, but otherwise it looks to be absolutely in original condition and in pefect working order. I do find it odd that the forearm is of a different color wood but knowing furniture like I do, it looks to be original b/c the wood has discolored where it meets up with the holding rings; a good sign that it has aged right along with the rest of the wood. The stock is walnut, the forearm is a bit lighter wood but is a hardwood for sure. All markings seem to be correct i.e. SA on working parts but no marking on the butt plate. It passes the bullet test also.
I also have a 1943 UFH bayonet and scabbord coming along with a full bandoleer of '43 ammo and clips to complete the package.
I could have given him a watch, or a gadget/widget etc, but who in the world gets a true piece of history like an M1 Garand?
He will never hunt with this rifle. He will surely run a clip or two through it, but otherwise it will be a keepsake. Just thought this was a good story of a proud dad getting his son something special from a very special time and generation in our history.
Thanks for letting me share it with you. Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated. I would love to gently clean up the wood a bit, maybe with tung oil or Formby's wood cleaner/feeder. Thoughts? Anything else to look for?:confused: I look forward to being a part of The Highroad!
 
Welcome to The High Road! Congratulations on a great purchase. I love my M1, currently in aftermarket M1D configuration. The M1 is a rifle every American should own, and incidentally, it's very handy for shooting extraterrestrials in the face, if that's your sort of thing.
 
It sounds like a great gift with a lot of thought behind it that he should be able to cherish for a very long time. Here are a few things I could think of off the top of my head about what else you might want to look for. First, I would look up the ammo you have to see if it has corrosive primers so that you can be sure to clean out the gas system well (and the parts near it) if it is. Also, if you want to avoid the hassle of cleaning up after corrosive ammo, check out the CMP (odcmp.org) for some greek ammo.
As for accessories, you could look at getting a nice m1907 sling, and or a buttstock cleaning kit.
As for cleaning up the wood, I don't know a whole lot about it, but the CMP is a great source for info and they posted this for just such questions and its more than I would have ever wanted to know about it:
http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/askarmoreranswerwood_cleaning_article.htm
 
Excellent gift idea! But my 2 cents is to give it to him just like it is, and let him decide whether to clean it up or refinish the wood.

If you just have to clean up the wood, only use 100% PURE TUNG OIL, not any kind of TUNG OIL FINISH! Two totally different products.
 
This is a great story and I can relate. My son, who turned 22 this past August, and I began a discussion as to what sort of high powered rifle he might want to own for his birthday.

We discussed calibers, action types, usage, my preferences, his preferences, etc., on-and-on for a few hours.

I then mentioned the possibility of a military type rifle and began to zero in on the M1 Garand. I explained the historical significance of this rifle and that it was one of the (if not THE) most important implements that allowed our troups to win the war and secure our freedom.

This was not lost on Steven and our conversation led us to the CMP site. Here is the result:

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He could not be more proud and cherishes this rifle for what it is and what it represents.

Good on you for this. You both will remember this for the rest of your lives. My son and I certainly will.

Dan
 
Get the must have accessory , which is, the adjustable gas plug .Either a McCann or a Schuster will do. This will be invaluable so he can shoot commercial ammo and be able to hunt using soft point.
 
Wood colors do vary. I am always somewhat put off by the variations, but that's coming from a civilian rifle standpoint where wood color and matching are critical. The military never cared, nor should they. The stocks had a job to do - supply grip and protect the bits and pieces along with preventing burns from hot metal. Some parts got swapped for parade rifles to get them closer to even color. Since it was somewhat common practice at the company level, you might want to look for another couple of pieces that match and swap them on?

Other than that, it's great story and your son will enjoy it I'm sure :)
 
Kind words appreciated

Certainly thanks for all the kind words here.:D I also enjoyed reading some of YOUR stories/replies.
All in all, I think I did OK. He will never hunt with it b/c he does not hunt. We do like to pistol shoot often.
I just think when I hand him this M1, he might just be speechless for a bit!;)

Again, good to be part of The HighRoad. Happy Thanksgiving to all!:)
 
I would buy one from the CMP. That way you will know for sure what you are getting into. They also have great customer service to back it up. If you are not an M1 expert, who knows what you will get from a private seller? I've also heard that CMP is much less expensive than other sellers.
 
Get the must have accessory , which is, the adjustable gas plug .Either a McCann or a Schuster will do. This will be invaluable so he can shoot commercial ammo and be able to hunt using soft point.
A big +1 to this....I have seen damaged rods because of modern ammo...I reload for my early # springfield and my garand, but someone said if you stick to lighter bullets you are safer with the commercial ammo in the garand....don't know if that is true or not, but that is what I was told.
 
The right M1 ammo.

Well, I did buy some very nice 1943 vintage M1 Garand ammo in a original bandoleer with six fully loaded clips. I doubt my son will ever shoot more than these.
However, I see that Cabelas has special M1 Garand ammo by Hornaday. They load it especially for M1 Garands to prevent too much pressure on the gas system.
You might want to check Hornaday's sight. Cabelas has 20 rounds for around $37 bucks I believe.;)
 
good on you TS, and to you dan. that is a fine looking m-1. nice wood too. i got mine a few months back and it is almost new, and they put a nice new stock on there, but i almost prefer a darker more worn stock... alas, guess ill shoot it more :)
 
I don't recall if Cabelas stocks it, but there is an American Eagle (Federal) load in FMJ made specifically for the Garand that is a bit less expensive than Hornaday's loading. I got mine from grafs.com. They have cheap or even free shipping.
 
My M1 will shoot the Hornady load into very tight groups. We are talking K31 type groups.
 
Get the must have accessory , which is, the adjustable gas plug .Either a McCann or a Schuster will do. This will be invaluable so he can shoot commercial ammo and be able to hunt using soft point.

You are correct, the adjustable gas plug is needed to shoot modern hunting ammunition in the Garand. With modern powders, the port pressures are too high for the Garand's operating rod and damage to the rod is a real possibility.

Soft point bullets do not need the adjustable gas plug if loaded over powders suitable for the Garand.

Hornady and Federal American Eagle make Garand safe loads. It says so on the box.

For the OP, I would keep the early forties ammunition and not shoot it. It is corrosive requiring the appropriate cleaning of the firearm after shooting. There is lots of non-corrosive ammunition out there suitable for the M1.
 
It sounds like you got a good deal on a very thoughtful gift. Wartime Garands are hard to come by. If I were you, I'd buy him a box of the newer Garand ammo to shoot up and let him keep the period correct stuff for display, it would look good with the rifle, bayonet, etc. as a package, and you'd avoid the corrosive primers. That is a great rifle and a real piece of history. One piece of advice: If either of you is unfamiliar with the Garand, WATCH THAT THUMB!! It will bite you if you don't get your thumb out of the way when you load the clip, or even worse, if you press down on the follower in an empty gun (this happens when you're cleaning it shortly after you say "I wonder how this works"). Here is a link to a Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand . Read over the part about operation, particularly loading. It gives a pretty good idea of how to load it right. Of course, it's no substitute for finding an old-timer who actually carried one across Normandy to show you how, I had the honor of learning that way but they are getting fewer and further between. Happy shooting.
 
For the OP, I would keep the early forties ammunition and not shoot it. It is corrosive requiring the appropriate cleaning of the firearm after shooting.

I don't believe that is a correct statement. US ammo has been non-corrosive for longer than that but I don't remember exactly how far back we made the switch. I'm sure someone will come by and put a date on the non-corrosive primers.
 
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For the OP, I would keep the early forties ammunition and not shoot it. It is corrosive requiring the appropriate cleaning of the firearm after shooting.

I don't believe that is a correct statement. US ammo has been non-corrosive for longer than that but I don't remember exactly how far back we made the switch. I'm sure someone will come by and put a date on the non-corrosive primers.

WWII era ammo is indeed corrosive primed. I wouldn't shoot it anyway because IMO it's a collectable relic from the war. In fact I DO collect WWII ammo, I have quite a bit of it. I even have a stash of it in original WWII bandoliers with the black safety pins. Got some .30-06 and .45acp from WWI too.
 
Be careful original poster.
M1 garands tend to be habit forming and most buyers are not happy with just one.:)
 
Ifyou want to check out M1 Garands by grades and prices put "CMP" in your search engine. Will take you almost directly to the CMP web site.
 
I bought 2 Garands from the CMP about 35 years apart. The first was beautiful. The more recent one was junk. I hear they are scraping the bottom of the barrel on these. Buying one you could at least see photos of first was a good move.

The M1 is a hoot to shoot.
 
I bought 2 Garands from the CMP about 35 years apart. The first was beautiful. The more recent one was junk. I hear they are scraping the bottom of the barrel on these. Buying one you could at least see photos of first was a good move.

The M1 is a hoot to shoot.

The CMP Field Grades currently offered are rough. Rode hard and put up wet. Great projects if you know your way around an M1.

The Service Grade Specials and the CMP Specials are fantastic rifles. The former grade is virtually new, post Korean era rifles. The CMP Specials are overhauled M1s with new manufactured barrels. Both have new manufactured stocks.
 
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