My Ruger 10/22 is acting up...

[MoDerN_WarRioR]

Ok so i have had a Ruger 10/22 for about 8 years or so now and it has been a blast to shoot and has always seemed to work fine. Lately thow, i have been having alot and i mean ALOT of problems with the shell getting jammed in the chamber as it is being ejected out of the gun. probably 7 out of 10 rounds i have to re-cock my gun because a shell get stuck 1/2 way out as it is being ejected... ITS SO FRUSTRATING!!!!

I thought it was the clip so i bought a new 20 dollar clip before i went out and still... it will not fire without a problem ejecting. I dont know if its something with the extractor, bullets, or what not...

So i need any help i can get to get this baby pushin lead again!!!
Thanks for the Help!!

p.s. I do clean the crap out of it every time after i go shooting. it could be foul up in the receiver but i dont think so...

 

[ms6852]

If the mags are eight years old it may be time for you to take the apart and clean them. When you re-assemble them you can re-adjust the tension on the spring, which could be the cause of your problems. Also if the mags have the steel lips it may be necessary to use a round file and file back towards the plastic. This will allow for less interference with the bolt as it pick up the next round. If the problem is caused by ejecting the spent round then it too is an easy fix. Just replace the extractor claw. If you have replaced the bolt charging spring with a heavier competition spring, and you are using subsonics the bolt may not be going all the way to the rear because the tension is too heavy. Also check the spring on the extractor make sure it has not broken. If you are sure it is an extractor problem go to this website, they can help.

http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251080

 

[Sheldon]

I would say the extractor is either bad or the spring for it is weak. Quite a few manufacturers make a replacement extractor and they aren't to expensive and easy to replace.

 

[dispatch55126]

Extractor is bad. If they start to round out even slightly, they'll stovepipe. Replace it with a quality aftermarket extractor and you'll be good to go.

 

[Lightsped]

Same for me. I have a stock 10/22 (about 4 years old) that will always give me FTF and FTE. I adjusted the tension on the magazine. No help. I replaced the original magazine and it didn't help at all. I really want to enjoy this rifle, but I can't at the moment due to these reliablity issues.

What is the process of replacing the extractor?

 

[foghornl]

Clean magazines

Then 5 words:

Volquartzen Extractor for Ruger 10/22.

 

[wally]

Volquartzen Extractor for Ruger 10/22.

+1, even my Ram-Line magazines started working after I put one in.

--wally.

 

[Jubjub]

If you look at the extractor, you will see that there is a plunger pushing forward on the base of it.

All you need to do to remove the extractor is push that plunger back with a small screwdriver or cleaning pick to remove the tension on the extractor, then the extractor can be lifted out. It sort of hooks inside the bolt.

Sadly, if you do it this way, as soon as you have removed the extractor, the plunger and spring will slip out and shoot across the room, and you will never find them again.

So before you do this simple procedure, get a big clear plastic bag. Put the bolt in the bag, clamp it in your vise so that the bag is sticking up and you can reach inside it, and work inside the bag. When the parts go flying, as they inevitably will, especially when installing the new one, you can find them to try again.

There is a tool that is sold for the 10/22 for the two purposes of reinstalling the bolt after removal and for removing and replacing extractors. It's probably not worthwhile unless you fiddle with the things all the time.

 

[tjj]

"Clean magazines

Then 5 words:

Volquartzen Extractor for Ruger 10/22. "



Then one word: OIL

Trigger group and bolt assembly.

 

[rangerruck]

jub jub is very right here; large clear plastic bag, that you can put tools, hands, and bolt assy., into. Then Volquartzen upgrade kit. problem, forever solved.

 

[First Big Foot]

I have been shooting my 10/22 since 1976. It is flat out my favorite firearm.
But a couple years ago some Blazer ammo bricks went on sale, and I bought three or four of them.
What CRAP!!! In Caps.
The only thing they are worth shooting in is my daughter's pink Cricket.
So check out the function of your 10/22 with some Stingers, or anything other than Blazers.

Other than that, Blow the dirt out of the Magazine.
Check the extraxctor to make sure the hook has sharp corners to grab the shell's base.
Clean out the receiver completely. Remove the screw in the bottom of the forarm piece, then remove the barrel loop, and roll the whole function, (metal) piece out of the stock. Then push out the two pins and remove the top from the trigger assembly.
Now I use, (usually), a gizmo from Harbor Freight that is a spritzer with a siphon tube, to clean out all the functioning parts, with the siphon tube dipped into a gallon jug of paint thinner. This will clean a gun like you have never imagined. (Fast, clean, thorough).

(After twenty years of only using #9 on a brush, this is such a pleasure.)

If I am away from home, I do sorta the same thing with Spray can Brake cleaner.

You will still need to scrub the bore with a properly sized brush and #9.

Now lube everything. I use a two lube philosphy. Anything that slides gets pistol grease, anything that is pivoting, (such that I cannot actually rub grease on it because it is inside something else), gets oil, because the oil will creep in. This should be a light pistol oil, or similar to Light machine oil, perhaps 5W to 10W, (Not WD-40). This lubricates and cushions the parts during movement and impact.

Get at least alight film of oil on everything that you sprayed clean to prevent rust. Get a light coat of the oil down the bore too, as this will actually help reduce leading and rust.
Give it a try, Let me know.

 

[MoDerN_WarRioR]

Thanks everyone for all the help! Im almost positive its the extractor or a weak/broken spring. I havent yet got deep into it yet to pull it all apart But i will take all the advice about using bags and what to look for to hopefully find out whats causing the spent shells to get stuck.

I saw a comment about oiling it up... i do plenty of oiling. I thought there was too little oil on it and so i compensated for that and made sure i got it very good. (still didnt work)

I know its not a magazine failure because ya after 8 years the old ones probably need to be cleaned or thrown away... thats why i bought a new one. (still didnt work)

I will be checking into the Volquartzen Extractor for Ruger 10/22. Sounds like everyone on here can vouch for it so far. must be a good sign So im going to take it all apart and see if i get get this puppy working again!

Thanks again for the help! ill keep u all posted! Anyone know a good site that tells how to totally disassemble/reassemble a 10/22?

 

[greyling22]

maybe here http://www.rugerfan.com/extractor.html for teh extractor and youtube/google for the rest

 

[Runningman]

Sounds like it is short stroking. Are you using high velocity ammo?

Some free things to check and do before throwing money at it.

1. You can test and see if the extractor is the actual problem....... by pulling out the extractor and spring and go out and shoot it a bunch. A 10/22 will run fine with no extractor. Just can't manually pull out rounds out of the chamber.

2. Make sure the open end of the Hammer Strut Assembly retainer is facing up!!! Many times 10/22s come from Ruger with the open end facing down. This has caused more issues with stovepipes in 10/22s than all other issues combined.

3. Make sure scope base mount screws are not sticking thru the receiver. If they do they can cause drag on the bolt.

4. Make sure you clean the chamber and bolt face regularly. I do this every time I go out and shoot. Thoroughly clean the action including the bolt and use dry lube on the bolt once a year.

Does it work with CCI Mini Mag 40 grain solid ammunition? These are the gold standard for reliable cycling in semi auto 22s. If your semi auto 22 does NOT work with these than it has a problem.

 

[MoDerN_WarRioR]

Ok sooo.... I Took everything apart except for removing the extractor from the bolt. And i must say i was very surprised how crazy dirty everything was inside when i removed it all. Ever since i have been shooting this rifle i would clean the bore, the bolt as much as possible and oiled everything as well as i could from entering in through the magazine breach. So i would bet money on it that it will shoot a heck of a lot smoother and i hope this will cure the jamming.

I visually inspected the extractor and as far as i could tell/see i didnt notice it beginning to round. It still looked plenty sharp and the spring seemed to have plenty of tension on it meaning that i dont think the spring is broke. It could possibly be loosing its tension over time but...

On another note, i know people are talking about the kind of ammo shot; i know this plays a huge part on how the gun functions because i have gone through hell finding the perfect ammo for my AR-15. Soooo, with that said i have been shooting 2 types of ammo through the gun.

1.) CCI Blazer .22LR 40gr.

2.) Federal .22LR Copper plated, hollow point, BULK (loose) 36gr. (High Velocity)

Does anyone know possibly if either of these are good bullets or not. And maybe any suggestions for different ammo?

THANKS!!
-Chris

 

[CZguy]

Runningmans advice needs to be made into a sticky. At the very least print it out and hang onto it, sooner or later it will save you money.

 

[CZguy]

Does anyone know possibly if either of these are good bullets or not. And maybe any suggestions for different ammo?

Each .22 is different and will like different ammo.

But, as said above, try it with CCI Mini Mag 40 grain solids.

 

[dispatch55126]

I run my 10/22 dry as .22lr is dirty enough without having something attract the carbon. I questioned the extractor as well as it sounded like mine was short stroking. I replaced the extractor and all of my problems went away.

 

[wally]

I've three variations of 10/22 rifles, two that are 10-15 years old, and their "new" tactical model. All work wonderfully with the Federal copper washed bulk pack from Walmart. The older two needed the Volquartsen extractor to function with the high capacity "banana" magazines, the new Tactical has been fine out of the box so far.

I've don't think I've tried the CCI Blazer in them, but none have been particularly ammo sensitive. The only trouble I've ever had with the rotary mag was with some Remington "Golden Bullet" bulk pack, the waxy coating gummed up the mag but good, but these were feeding issues, if they chambered they fired and extracted/ejected fine.

His gun had been working fine are a long time, unless he's using ammo he's never used before, if good cleaning doesn't fix it, odds are its the extractor. I can't seen any difference between working ones and non-working ones, the Volquartsen comes with a replacement spring which may be part of the trick.

--wally.

 

[MoDerN_WarRioR]

I questioned the extractor as well as it sounded like mine was short stroking. I replaced the extractor and all of my problems went away.

Hmm.. I will keep that in mind still. Defenitaly a possibility im just anxious to try it out again based on what i just did to it.

Thanks!
-Chris

 

[MoDerN_WarRioR]

Thanks Wally!

How hard is it to replace the extractor? Not too bad? It just looks intimidating and seems like there are a ton of things that can go wrong..

 

[wally]

Its not hard to replace, actually getting the original out without losing the plunger and spring is the hardest part. Putting it back in is easy. Check out Greyling22's link.

Yes the 10/22 will "run" without an extractor since its a blowback, but without the extractor holding the empty until it hits the ejector, ejection will be erratic and stovepipe jams common, especially with the high capacity mags which seem to reduce the ejection clearance just enough to matter.

As I said, I never had ejection problems with the rotary mag, only the high capacity mags. Two out of two extractor replacements fixed stovepipe ejection problems -- even my Eagle and Ram-Lines worked afterwards.

--wally.

 

[powwowell]

Quote from MoDerN_WarrioR
"Ok sooo.... I Took everything apart except for removing the extractor from the bolt. And i must say i was very surprised how crazy dirty everything was inside when i removed it all. Ever since i have been shooting this rifle i would clean the bore, the bolt as much as possible and oiled everything as well as i could from entering in through the magazine breach. So i would bet money on it that it will shoot a heck of a lot smoother and i hope this will cure the jamming.
THANKS!!
-Chris"

This may be the answer to your problem. May I sugest that you go to Rimfire Central? There are tons of information on the 10/22 there.
Larry