My tax refund is driving me insane 223, 22-250?

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i just got my tax refund back and am 100% torn between 22-250 or 223 for a dedicated coyote/varmint gun. Im going to buy a weatherby vanguard in one of these two calibers and just cant make up my mind as to which i will buy. The 22-250 is going to be a bit better but the ammo is double the price of a 223. I might be in the position to make some pretty long shots on coyotes at times as i do live in Arizona and we do have some wide open spaces. Help me decide please.
 
I got the Weatherby Vanguard Sub-MOA Varmint in .223 Rem myself when I considered that decision. It's like new - I love it but I might consider selling it if you're interested in the more expensive Sub-MOA version - but I'll give you a much better deal than what they cost new. Let me know.

But either caliber will work fine - just pick whatever floats your boat.
 
thanks for the offer tad but ive always been kind of turned off by internet transactions, it just seems like alot of hassle and not saying that you would do this but alot of people get burned.
 
i'm a huge fan of the 22-250 as a varminter and would steer you that way for no reason other than it is what i like.
 
A .223 works fine. One downed a javelina for me very nicely last year. You can get them in a wide variety of bullet weights and styles, too, and there's tons of good rifles chambered in it. No reason to add another (more expensive) caliber if you've already got a good stockpile of .223 ammo. Stick with what you've got, and have fun killing yotes.
 
No problemo, but for future reference, a LOT of guns are sold in happy transactions over the internet through FFLs - if you didn't know, and...

but alot of people get burned.

Well, no, not the smart ones who look at feedback, we don't. We have a system to prevent that as you might imagine - it's the "feedback" system. Deal only with people with multiple positive feedback, and no negative feedback. The system has worked well for years, and is nearly impeccable when utilized correctly.

Just making sure you realize. Of course you don't trust just anyone. But look into the feedback system when you want to start doing transactions - works a lot like the Ebay/Gunbroker, etc. feedback system, though slightly less formal.
 
An accurate rifle in .223 will be just fine for coyotes to around 300 yards or so. Me, I'd start out there, since there's already a stash of ammo. If I found any significant number of occasions to really play Ma Bell, I'd trade and take up reloading as well.

Of course, I'm always hollering for folks to take up rolling their own. The way it saves you money is that it keeps you out of the beer joints at night. :)
 
The other thing that concerns me about 22-250 is that i have heard it plays hell on pelts. Im not that worried about trashing a coyote pelt but if i get the opportunity to dump a bobcat or fox i dont want the problem. I have thought about the 220 swift but last time i checked cabelas didnt have any of the vanguards in stock in that caliber.
 
The other thing that concerns me about 22-250 is that i have heard it plays hell on pelts. Im not that worried about trashing a coyote pelt but if i get the opportunity to dump a bobcat or fox i dont want the problem. I have thought about the 220 swift but last time i checked cabelas didnt have any of the vanguards in stock in that caliber.
Pelt damage really comes down to bullet selection.

Here's another thing to consider. A 22-250 can be down-loaded to shoot like a .223, but the .223 CANNOT be loaded UP to the 22-250 level.

I am a 22-250 fan.
 
if you think a 22-250 is hard on pelts, just wait till you run a 220 swift!

don't know anything about bobcat shooting but i cannot imagine a scenario where a 223 would not exit where a 22-250 would...

use a good bullet for the job and you should be in good shape, regardless of chambering.
 
A 62-grain .223 hollowpoint bullet will go clean through a javelina without expanding, even after a heart and double lung shot. I imagine it would do the same with a coyote. Stick to soft points.
 
Well i ended up with a weatherby vanguard in 223 and i absolutely am in love. It took a while to get it on paper even after being boresighted but once we got it dialed in a 2 inch group at 100 yards seemed to be my norm, my buddy that went with me was shooting about an inch. The trigger is amazing the finish is good and it points very well.
 
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