My top scope picks

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George Hill

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what I've done is to take a look at each price tier and pick a scope or two at that level. I'll start out on the low end of the price scale and we'll work our way up. Now the interesting thing about some of these scopes is that they can sometimes beat scopes at a higher price level. So you might want to take this list with you next time you hit the gun counter so you can check them out head to head with other scopes. When you are looking at a couple different scopes you need to compare the brightness, clarity, eye relief, magnification levels (are they actually magnifying as they are saying they are), and their history for strength. Another thing to consider is the reputation of the company for taking care of the customer after the purchase. There is no chart or number that allows you to rate a scope. Like say Candle Power or Lumens. End since everyone's eyes are different, optics are subjective. So here we go:

Nikon ProStaff BDC 3-9: $159.99. There are a lot of other scopes out there that cost from this price level on down, but seriously, there are none worth the money. Tascos, Simmons, Bushnell Banners... looking through them they generally have a nasty yellow tint that makes it look like you are looking through a jar of piss. They are total crap. If you can't buy a better scope... if you can't bring it up to this level... you probably shouldn't be buying a rifle scope. This scope is where clarity starts. The ProStaff is clear, reasonably sharp, and has a lifetime warranty. The BDC reticle works quite well with a little practice.

Vortex Diamondback 4-12: $189.99. Vortex is a new optics company that is taking the market by storm. I've not seen anything from these guys that have not been fantastic for the money. This scope might prove to be much better as we see how well they stand up to recoil.

Nikon Buckmaster 3-9 BDC: $209.99. I liked this scope so much, I went and got one and I'm glad I did. For only two hundred and ten, it's hard to beat this glass. The only downsides to this scope are first the funky rounded objective bell shape and the eye relief which isn't as roomy as it should be.

Nikon Team Primos 3-9 BDC: $269.99. This is an interesting hybrid scope which reminds me of the older Monarch series. It has the ProStaff tube, with the Buckmaster style focal ring. The clarity and brightness is outstanding. I wish they made this in a 4-12. For some variety. Nikon has the lower end of the market tied up, but the newest evolution of the Monarch series has disappointed me. They are not bad, but not quite as good as they used to be. Reason for this is the exporting of the manufacturing from Japan to the Philippines. This wasn't a beneficial move for them.

Bushnell Elite 3200 4-12: $299.99. This one has the parallax focus out on the objective bell. It has a decent eye relief for varminting and target shooting. Match this one up with a Savage or a Vanguard and you've got a good package without spending a lot of money.

Leupold VX-II 3-9 LR: $329.99. You can put this on any heavy recoiling gun and it will take care of business. The glass is great and light transmission is too. These new VX-II scopes are actually the old Vari-X III scopes that everyone hailed as world class. Nothing has changed here. It's still world class and hunters have taken these around the world and have hunted everything on the planet.

Burris 4.5-14 Fullfield II: $389.99. This has a larger bell, Mil-Dot reticle and is popular with guys looking for a tactical rifle scope that doesn't break the bank. I've seen these on a lot of flattop AR's and Remington 700 SPS rifles in all calibers.

Vortex Viper 4-12X40: $429.99. This is going to give the Leupold VX-II's and some of the III's a serious run for the money. The good warranty, the argon gas purging, side parallax focus, these scopes have a lot to offer. But again, since they are new they don't have the century long track record of proven history. Hey, Vortex – send me one of these, and I'd be happy to field test it! This scope here is one I am very interested in.

Leupold VX-II 4-12, fine plex: $439.99. I've topped one of my favorite rifles with this one. This is a good balanced rifle scope that is bright, clear, with great eye relief... the only thing I wish it had was turrets that were finger adjustable and not requiring a damn coin. Over 400 bucks and you have to break out a penny. That's a retarded oversight that Leupold needs to fix. This is ridiculous. But that's my only gripe. Getting a better scope than this one, the price jumps considerable.

Leupold VX-III 4.5-14 B&C: $579.99. This is another personal favorite, a scope that has it all... no weaknesses. In fact, the VX-III doesn't know the meaning of the word “weak”. I love this one. The Boone and Crockett reticle is simple and brilliantly executed allowing very rapid use in the field to help calculate your hold over and windage. You can put this one on even the harshest recoiling guns.

Shepherd 6-18X40 V2: $725. This is a good scope for the money... probably the best of it's type if there was anything else like it. There are two sets of adjustment turrets. One for your zero and another to adjust for range and windage. This allows for serious precision long range shooting.

Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14: $749.99. Zeiss produces very fine optics for hunting in all conditions. This is one of the worlds best all around scopes and for what you are getting quality wise, it's hard to beat. Again, to get better than this, there is a big price jump.

Kahles 10X42 ZF95 Tactical: $999.99. The requirements of a great hunting scope are similar to a tactical scope. In this case, the scope has to be clear and bright and strong. Simplicity and ruggedness are Kahles halmarks. The reticle is designed for the most serious of shooting tasks and not just for bagging big bucks. I had a Kahles years ago and never found an equal. Of course, I have always been fond of fixed power rifle scopes and that one as given to me by a dear friend who no longer walks the Earth... so I might be a little biased. I wish I still had it. It was stolen from me by a room mate in College.

Swarovski 6-18X50: $1,069.99. If I have to explain this one, you've never looked through one. Swarovski has been the pinnacle for many years. Expensive, but worth it if you want the absolute best in optical quality. The only downside is strength and I've seen more than a few come back for repairs after being mounted on heavy recoiling arms. I wouldn't put this on anything from .300 Win Mag on up. But on something smaller – it's the best there is.

Leupold VX-7 3.5-14 B&C: $1599.99. If you guys wondered what you should get me for Christmas... this is it. And don't worry about getting me the same thing as someone else. If I get multiple VX-7's, that's fine by me. No social faux-pas here. I'd happily put one on every rifle I own. The strength, clarity, color transmission... it is on par with the Swarovski's and even bests the Z6 in my opinion... better field of view and eye relief at least in the examples I've looked through. This is my top pick.

Nightforce Optics 8-32X56 & 12-42X56 NXS MLR: Price? Don't even ask. Nightforce scopes are crazy expensive but worth it if you have the means. If you are in the market for a .50BMG rifle then these are the scopes you want. Fantastic optics, etched reticles for strength, illumination, if Government is buying you a scope – pick this one. These scopes are so good, CZ USA is putting them on the UHR, the Ultimate Hunting Rifle, and boasting MOA accuracy out to 1000 yards. Special Forces use these bad boys on their sniper rifles. Sure, they cost as much as a used truck, but this is what you want when lives are on the line.
 
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I haven't tried most of those (never even heard of several of them) but I have on my rifles Leupold's VXIII LR, Leupold's VX-L, Swarovski's fixed 10x40mm (Barrett labeled), Nightforce 12-42x56, and some others

Personally, I like the VX-L for clarity and light transmission. It's just amazingly bright. However, some of the guys I shoot with looked through the same scopes and think the Nightforce is better. Like you said, it's somewhat subjective.

Oddly enough, my favorite reticle (for the type of shooting I do) is the nightforce NP-2DD
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but my biggest beef against the nightforce is that I just can't get the reticle to focus! The dot is almost always blurry to me.
 
I have use the US Optics SN3 scope and while I thought it was very good scope, I was rather shocked at the sticker price. I just didn't think the scope was worth that much money. And this was a new scope on a new rifle (a Savage model 12 in .22-250)
I liked the wide band of magnification, but I didn't like how much light transmission was lost as you zoomed in and I didn't like how it felt like I lost eye relief as I zoomed in. No big deal on a .22-250, but on a 7MM or .300 Win Mag, I could see Scope Bite in the future.
That's one factor that has to be considered - the rifle you are going to put the scope on. Critical eye relief is more important than people think.
I had one customer (I'm now a professional outfitter) I had traded in his 700 7MM for a .300 Ultra Mag. In spite of advice, he kept his old scope and mounted it on the .300 RUM rifle. The old scope was a great unit, but the eye relief was not roomy enough so he mounted the scope (did it himself) too far back. Well, it worked great right up until he pulled the trigger. It was the very next day after he got that .300 that I saw him. He had about 14 stitches holding his new eyebrow in place.
As far as IOR goes, well, I've not used an IOR in the field but they look fine in the store. They have a fixed 4 power that is very nice. But for the same price, you could be into a Vortex Viper or a Leupold VX-II. To pick that fixed 4 power - I don't remember the model number - you would have to have a rifle specifically in mind for a fixed 4... like say... a CZ 527 (Good grief I love that little rifle) Some of IOR's other scopes are better suited to varminting and for the money, I think my selections are the better choices. Swarovski has you covered there, same or a little less money, but with better light and color transmission.
 
USO's do run a little shorter on eye relief than Leupold, NF, and SB. However, they do have an extended eye relief ocular housing. A friend of mine had no problem with the stock setup on his braked 338LM (TRG42) but when he started shooting with a suppressor he had to get the extended eye relief modification.

I know this is George's thread, and I don't want to butt in, but there are some very specific features you want for a practical LR shooting - separate from optical qualities, build quality, and zero retention - and relatively few scopes have them. USO does.

One of our local LR shooters used to be very hot on the IOR scopes. I think he got rid of them after too many reliability problems. I was shooting his rifle once, went to adjust the magnification, and the entire ocular housing came loose. Not good.

-z
 
My picks are for general use and hunting. Specialized use like extended range or tactical (even though I did make a tactical pick) is a whole other separate can of worms.
 
Good write-up. Thanks.

I have a VX-III 4.5-14 on a hunting rifle and it is about perfect (antelope, deer...open, rolling hills type of hunting). The B&C reticle makes hitting soda can size targets out to 500 yards a gimme.

So easy I can put money on it. Seriously.

Ed
 
What bugs me is when I sell a guy a really nice rifle, like an Accumark in .30-378 WbyMag or a Browning Medallion in .300 WSM... and the guy puts a cheap scope on it. Because I know the guy is not going to be happy with it and the rifle is not going to perform as well as it could.
It's like buying a new Mustang GT and then taking it to Wal-Mart for the cheapest tires that will fit. You've just cost the car half it's capability! Rifles are the same way. The rifle's scope is where the rubber hits the road.
A good rule of thumb is to spend about the same on the scope as you spend on the rifle. That will give you a good balance.
 
I've never looked through them... but would love to do so. They are from the Land of CZ and that gives me warm fuzzies.
If I go to SHOT 2008, I'll check them out.
If you have one that you don't need anymore, send it my way and I'll see where it stacks up.
 
Nightforce makes the list, but no USO or Schmitt & Bender?

I don't know of any scope companmy other than USO that will build your scope to your specifications. I recenty got a USO ST-10S. It has a 1/2 MOA EREK knob, 1/2 MOA windage and MOA reticle. The price was actually under the comparable Leupold MarkIV M3 fixed 10X with a scope that has real Schott glass, heavy duty construction and the best customer service in the industry - built just the way I wanted.

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GunTech, the Kahles smokes the USO option at that price level... it's a tactical too. And one that works with better optical quality and greater simplicity. Glad you like your choice, but if you get the chance, peer through a Kahles. And that scope might look good on that sniper rifle, but it would look silly on a Kimber 8400 Classic.
My picks are for general use and hunting. Specialized use like extended range or tactical (even though I did make a tactical pick) is a whole other separate can of worms.

Sightrons are decent glass for the money, rbernie... but the Vortex beats it for less:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/riflescopes/view/vortex_diamondback_2-7x35_(black_matte)
Vortex is an amazing optics company. Brand new, out of the blue... and they are crushing the competition. The only question I have about them is how they hold up in the long run. This is also the only question we are going to have to wait on. I would really love to see how these things hold up to a Uintah Basin Coyote Hunting Season. If it can weather that... it can handle any hunt. Hot indoors, then Sub-Zero, then hot truck cabin, bouncing around, then sub-zero again... rinse and repeat. If the scopes prove to be as tough as the binos... then these scopes are going to end up right up there with Zeiss... especially the Viper series.
 
The Kahles 10X42 ZF95 has 1/4 MOA clicks in what looks like a single-turn type elevation knob. How many minutes does it have up from zero? I couldn't find that information anywhere.

-z
 
I have a Kahles Helia. I don't think the optics are any better. And as noted, it's not built to my specs. The MOA reticle alone is a huge win.
 
A couple of additional comments. While I have found Nikon scopes to be very good, and I currently own a couple of Nikon Tacticals, their customer service sucks. Trying to get a problem fixed is like pulling teeth. In fact, there are very few companies scope companies left that still have anything like customer service. Leupold, while not what it once was, is still very good, and USO is outstanding.

Many of the foreign built glass is extremely good, but once you've paid your money, you are on your own.
 
"customer service sucks"
Huh? Your kidding right? They are just about the easiest to work with with the fastest turn around. Seriously. They are trying real hard to beat Leupold... and they are just about there.
 
I've had several occasions to call Nikon's costomer service, and every time I have gotten little or no help. You've obviously had a different experience. My own experience with Nikon is certainly not unique. Check some of the other boards like Sniper's Hide.
 
Well, maybe it's because I'm a stocking Nikon Dealer and they want to keep me happy. Because you wouldn't believe the stuff I've sent them for repair and they've bent over backwards for them. Like a scope bent into a boomerang shape after being run over by an ATV.... 20 bucks, no problem. They replaced the whole scope. Done. And that was my own personal scope.
 
Scopeman

George,
You've overwhelmed me...
I have a Model Seven Remmington 308 and I'm not happy with the scope. When I place the gun to my cheek I have to slip back slightly or theres black edges. The mount gets in the way when loading, but I've heard single ring mounts are not strong enough for the 308
See: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=313108

I'm not the consummate shooter but do want a medium range price set up. What would you recommend? Give me 3 to pick from.
Thanks
KKKKFL
 
wow... amazing.

any chance we can make this a sticky? just getting into some rifle stuff myself and will probably be referencing this a bunch in the future.

thanks!
 
For us newbies how bout a quickie description.. I understand overall length, but what is Eye relief? If I do not get my face just so on the stock, there are black edges... what's the technical term for this? Also I rarely use the Zoom function, its pretty much always set to x9 in part this is because I'm just shooting a paper target about 100 yards down range, and secondarily its hard to hold the gun to my cheek and twist the zoom ring (its pretty stiff) Is it just me or does this improve with the price one spends?

Thanks George et all....

KKKKFL
 
Franco2shoot - The one piece base does add some rigidity so there are advantages. But a two piece set up from Burris or Leupold will work just fine for you, open it up a bit and give you more room. Plenty strong enough for .308.
But the eye relief issue for you is going to be a problem no matter what scope you put on there. I see your scope is pushed forward as much as it can get in the rings and changing to the 2 piece is actually going to go make matters worse.
The fix for that is rather easy... one - go with a long eye relief scope and make it into a Scout Rifle. The other fix, and the one I'd do... make some spacers to go under the recoil pad, and then go to a larger Sims Limbsaver recoil pad.
As for the scope, start out with with a Vortex Diamondback and go up from there.
 
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