My Wife FINALLY said the Magic Words!

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rainbowbob

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"I'd like to learn how to shoot a gun. Can we go to a range?"


Without recounting our entire history, I will simply say that my wife has been virulently anti-firearm in the past. I mean hoplophobic to the nth degree.

To be fair, we've been married 35 years, and I didn't become a firearm owner and an avid proponent of firearm self-defense until three years ago. It didn't sit well with her at the time, and we had some pretty good "discussions" about it (and by discussions I do mean hysterical shouting matches).

Since then she has calmed down and has become comfortable enough with me being armed, but has never expressed much interest in shooting. I convinced her once to hold and dry-fire a revolver, but she wasn't interested in learning to shoot.

This afternoon - out of the blue - my wife says; "I want to tell you about a dream I had...it was so real. I was napping on the couch (in reality and in her dream) and dreamed I heard a noise and looked out the door and saw a man crouching down trying to conceal himself. I was surprised at how calmly I was able to walk down the hall, open the safe, and retrieve a handgun. Then it occurred to me that I've never fired a handgun and don't know how to use one. Then I woke up."

"I think it's time I learned how to defend myself. What if you were incapacitated or not here? I don't want to have to sit here helpless waiting for the police."

I replied she was preaching to the choir! I told her I believed it is every one's personal responsibility to be prepared to defend themselves. I suggested the calm determination she felt in her dream came from her decision to defend herself and not be a victim, and the knowledge that the tools to do so are at her disposal. Now it's time to learn how to use them.

Ironically, this morning I was looking at the schedule for classes at the Firearms Academy of Seattle (with two locations - neither in Seattle) because I am always interested in getting more training.

First step: A handling and dry-firing session.

Second step: A trip to the range with a couple of revolvers; a .22 and a .38.

Third step: An introductory course at FAS.

I'm not predicting she will get a CPL and a carry weapon, or start shooting IDPA any time soon...but I wouldn't have predicted she would ever make the choice to learn to shoot either.

At the very least, she will learn how to shoot the defensive handguns in the safe and acquire the confidence that she can defend herself against a home invasion.

The horrific and much-publicized Petit case had a big influence on her - as I suspect it has had on many women.
 
Tip: MAKE IT FUN !

Don't make it about "killing" someone, make it FUN.

Don't use the people targets the first time or two, get some inoccuous ones. If you can do it, get some apples or other targets that'll blow up when hit. Makes it more fun than punching holes in paper.

Keep it short! 2 hours max.

Then, take her out to dinner and discuss how well she did!
 
Congratulations to you both.

You might consider sticking with the .22 until she becomes accustomed to flash and recoil. That may require several trips to the range. Not saying it will happen (you know her better than me) but if you discourage her on the first trip then getting her shoot again may never happen. In any case I'd let the option of moving up to the 38 be her decision.

Oversee her very closely for safety while she is shooting the first time. There is often a significant difference between what you instruct someone to do and what they will attempt. It's like they need to physically experience the firing operation before the importance of what you've told them sinks in.
 
Good for you, OP. I second the idea about the .22 caliber to begin with. The lack of recoil helps to focus on the basics for a beginner.
 
Make it fun, brag a little on her shooting. Make her want to go again.

Mine went a few times until she felt competent, and then quit going. Yea, they need to practice too. How about if you tell her. :p
 
Tip: MAKE IT FUN !

Don't make it about "killing" someone, make it FUN.

Don't use the people targets the first time or two, get some inoccuous ones. If you can do it, get some apples or other targets that'll blow up when hit. Makes it more fun than punching holes in paper.

Keep it short! 2 hours max.

Then, take her out to dinner and discuss how well she did!

Great advice.
 
The closest mine has come is to say once "I want to know where at least one of your guns is." However, when I cleared and offered one to her to "touch" (a small .22 pistol), she really didn't want to, almost like touching a bug (insect, not reserve gun.) Perhaps the raid conducted by SWAT-team members on the house two doors east of us last week, resulting in drug and weapons charges (possession of firearms by convicted felons) might re-awaken some interest, but I don't push it.
Glad for you and your household you may well have another potential defender and enthusiast-in-breeding.
 
"I think it's time I learned how to defend myself. What if you were incapacitated or not here? I don't want to have to sit here helpless waiting for the police."
Sounds oh so familiar. I've dated some that were fervently against owning firearms, but were ok with me owning one for protecting myself or her. That's elitism. :scrutiny: I've known others that have happened into a bad situation, then changed their point of view drastically. For those people, they saw the light and realized that a phone call to the police just might not save their life when facing an eminent threat. They realized they are tasked with protecting themselves, not the police or someone else. Your wife sounds like the latter.

Good luck!

Tip: MAKE IT FUN !

Don't make it about "killing" someone, make it FUN.

Don't use the people targets the first time or two, get some inoccuous ones. If you can do it, get some apples or other targets that'll blow up when hit. Makes it more fun than punching holes in paper.

Keep it short! 2 hours max.

Then, take her out to dinner and discuss how well she did!

Excellent suggestions. Shooting reactive targets (poppers, spinners, race targets, fruit and soup cans) really got my current girlfriend actively involved with my 22's and my AR. She's since moved on to wanting to learn on my handguns and possibly take a course or two.
 
Hooray! Have fun!!!! And say goodbye to your favorite firearms. They're all about to become hers. (See, I can say that because I am female :evil:)

Jan
 
And say goodbye to your favorite firearms. They're all about to become hers. (See, I can say that because I am female :evil:)
No you can say that because it is true. :) I put together my first AR and decided to try an eotech out that I got at a steal. My girlfriend (soon to be fiancee) loves the AR with the eotech...me not so much. I might like it with a scope, but I mentioned ditching the eotech and the look of disappointment was more than I can bear. That's pretty much her rifle now. Gives me an excuse to build another, though. :rolleyes:
 
And say goodbye to your favorite firearms.

My new favorite is the S&W Model 17 I picked up recently. I got it because I wanted it - but my hope was that she would be shooting it eventually. It will also translate well to the other K frames I have. My goal is for her to be very comfortable shooting one of those .38s.

As suggested, I may not try to graduate her to the .38 the first time out - unless she insists.


Then, take her out to dinner and discuss how well she did!

Definitely part of the plan!
 
Good for you rainbowbob!

Last weekend I took my 9 year old girl out for the second time in 1 year to shoot pumpkins. At home, I would teach her how to properly hold a pistol and taught her the correct stance. I was surprised to see how easily she learned the technique. I let her shoot "my wife's" Bersa .380 thunder. At roughly 8 yards away, my daughter put ALL 8 rounds on the pumpkin! I was so surpirsed how she could concentrate with the blast and the recoil. I was so proud of her. And she hit most of if with the next magazine. Now she wants to shoot my other guns. Then, my wife suddenly told me that she wanted either a Glock or a Beretta! WoW! (Another new gun:D) But I told her that I had to wait for a few months and lessen the load on the Buds credit card.

I might get her the Beretta instead. I have fired it and the recoil is significantly less than the Glock 19.

:D
 
Last weekend I took my 9 year old girl out for the second time in 1 year to shoot pumpkins.

Shooting pumpkins just sounds like too much fun! Never tried it.

Future goals include getting our hoplophobic daughter to a range. My son-in-law likes to shoot, so I'm hoping to get to her through him and my (hopefully) converted wife.

The ULTIMATE goal is to be able to take my eager 6-year-old grandson shooting. Out of respect for my daughter, I haven't pushed it (yet) - although I have started him with an airsoft that he really enjoys and that he is surprisingly accurate with on his first few tries.
 
Check out Wade's in Bellevue. It's local, indoor, has good ventilation, lots of supervision, and is a heck of a lot cheaper than places like Shooting Sports NW. There are also powered target hangers at any distance up to 17y, unlike Kenmore's fixed 25y pistol range.

I'm going to second, (third? Fifth?) the suggestion on starting on a .22. I got started on a Ruger MK II, and Wade's has plenty to rent if you don't own one already. Range guns tend to be roughed up and cleaned less frequently, but .22s love that kind of abuse. If you own a full-size (or steel framed) 9mm that might make a good starter pistol as well, as the recoil is still pretty mild and it would give her confidence with a pistol that's in the home.

I taught my best friend's wife how to shoot, and she now out shoots me by a fair margin. You want the important instructions (four rules, gun handling, trigger control, etc) done ahead of time, as she'll have trouble hearing you at the range and having you yell at her to be heard will make her self-conscious. Also, with newer shooters, where the eyes look the pistol points. Having her constantly turn towards you for instruction may lead to a muzzle pointed square in the center of your chest.

Keep the visit short and fun. Bring an appropriate amount of ammo (100 rounds or so) and call it quits after that. If she's still raring to go after your initial ammunition, there's a shop handy.
 
Range Selection

I recommend going to a range that is not busy- this will allow you to talk between shots a little more, and more importantly - it will not be loud and scary. Often times the loud noises are enough to scare a new shooter off, or at least make the first time less enjoyable. If that is not an option, then consider selecting a time which is less busy. Around here Saturdays at 1PM are the busiest.
 
Check out Wade's in Bellevue...Also, with newer shooters, where the eyes look the pistol points.

I like Sam's in South Everett. It's closer and can be real quiet at the right time of day during the week.

Good point about eyes/muzzle. I definitely want to spend ample time at home going over the basics of handling: the safety rules, muzzle and trigger discipline, loading and unloading with snap-caps, dry-firing, etc - BEFORE our first range visit.

Unfortunately, neither of us considered the fact that she presently has a PIC-line installed for anti-biotic infusion in her strong arm. That will be there for another five weeks, and it probably isn't a good idea to put any stress on it. I had her hold her hands up in a shooting grip and tense her forearms...and it was a little uncomfortable for her. I'm concerned that an hour of it might be downright painful and make for a negative experience. We can do all of the above until it is removed, however.

I'm taking her out to dinner tonight anyway!
 
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Make absolutely sure to take her to a nice OUTDOOR range, not a dark, loud, ominous indoor dungeon. And don't overestimate her ability to handle centerfire calibers. Watch her carefully, and don't push her to go beyond her comfort level.
 
Don't go into it expecting to leave shooting better than her... I have more than once ended the day with someone who shoots one of my guns better than I do... More motivation for me I suppose...

Perhaps I am just that good of a teacher....:D;)
 
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Whew!!! Thank goodness, I thought this was going to be another lengthy run on ramble by another one of those guys with no backbone who has sat patiently waiting 10 years for his wife to grant him permission to keep and bear arms.

I am pleased to find out that that's not the case here, congratulations, sounds like you got yourself a good gal capable of logic and reasoning, count yourself lucky bud, a lot of guys stand around waiting for their wives to tell them when they can pee, much less own a firearm.

With your wife's new tactical perspective you are no longer responsible for picking up all the slack and she can assume some of that responsibilty for herself making survival that much more likely in the event of a bad situation. Good luck :)
 
...sounds like you got yourself a good gal capable of logic and reasoning...

A good gal, yeah - but let's not go overboard with the logic and reasoning. ;)

More accurately, her hoplophobia was based on feelings (i.e., fear). Her decision to learn to shoot is based on the fear of being victimized. The fear of being a victim has outweighed her fear of guns.

I guess that's a kind of logic...but we are from different planets.

Yin and yang.

Hey...whatever gets her there.
 
As suggested, take some fun targets. ShootN'see targets are good. Pick up a box of clay targets. A 4'x4' of cardboard and set up to hold the clays. They break and fall...fun to see. Stay close enough for success, too. This must be fun for her so she will want to come back.

Lots of teachers on this board. You'll see some great
game plans" to make this the trip you'll both have fun with. :D

Mark
 
make it fun, my wife had shot when I met her. She had a stock story about how a .357 is way two powerful of a handgun for anyone and how POW!! the recoil sent the pistol over her head

now days her "nightstand gun" is a Taurus tracker in .357 which she does not practice with anywhere near enough, like 50 rounds every 2 years :(

well, 3 weeks ago she said the magic words to me after seeing my S.E.G. after a steel madness match...she said "that sounds like fun, I want to shoot steel"

here she is... with her nightstand gun... doing a number on a plate rack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hH3iD4NfhM

leave comments please, she loves comments and "I Liked" ratings
 
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