NAA Companion range report (i also got my dad hooked on BP as well)

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yes! i went shooting today, i brought my dad along as well! my goal was to test out my new revolvers. i had brought the NAA .22 LR companion and the NAA Super Companion. i loaded the Super companion with 5 grains of T73F, a 30 grain lead bullet, and some toy caps. i didn't put hearing protection in but i probably should have. so i set some empty Coca-Cola cans up about 15 feet away leaning against a piece of plywood. they were filled with some water. i put a rock on each one to help them explode better. i aimed my Super companion at a can, pulled the trigger BOOM... the can went splat and broke open. there was water all over the 1/2 inch thick plywood backstop and a .22 caliber bullet hole as well. the can was pretty destroyed from that powerful little gun! i can't believe how well it worked! the .22 LR companion did well too, i hot loaded it with 3 grains of Triple se7en. the cans were split open nicely! that .22 Magnum did not feel like a mouse gun to me, it felt like i had gotten a hold of a very powerful little handgun. i am confident with this handgun, i KNOW that it has the stopping power to take down a full grown attacker. it is very capable.

good news with the .22 Long Rifle version, it is very powerful as well, it can shoot through the plywood with ease. the fact that it is the worlds smallest blackpowder revolver is incredibly cool! i would say it is definitely worth the money. it is small, decently accurate for it's size, well made, and you can wash the cylinder in your dishwasher or place it in the bottom of the shower to clean it while you clean yourself. it is capable of very good velocities too, i highly recommend it! if you want power though i would recommend the Magnum. it seems to get about 1200 FPS when hot loaded, and shoots through dense plywood like it is paper. it is absolutely worth $200! the machining is top notch, the gun is solid and American made quality. i modified mine and added a rear notch sight, it helps a lot with aiming!

There is a time in every boys life when he is only allowed to have BB guns, and later on if he plays his cards right he will become a man by owning his first firearm. for my whole life i felt emasculated by only being able to own BB and pellet guns. but now i own a firearm that is truly powerful I feel like a man because i own a real firearm. i know that the Remington Parlor Pistol is a firearm but that didn't feel like it had any "bawls" to it. yes, a .22 is not the most powerful caliber, but this little handgun has more stopping power than the cartridge version of the gun. can you believe the blackpowder version actually can outdo the cartridge version? now this is a true Magnum!!! in this case the word "Magnum" deserves to be capitalized. it has truly earned the capital letter 100% Yes!!!

Triple Seven is the best non-smokeless propellant, it is very efficient and it washes away with water. my father and i fired fifty rounds out of each handgun, a total of 100 rounds. halfway things started to get a little sticky. i grabbed my water canteen and took my green bandanna off my head, got a little bit on it. i wiped the firing pin, inside the frame, near the throat of the barrel, the retaining pin, and under the top strap. i also got the front and rear of the cylinder. i loaded it, slid the cylinder back in, and it was buttery smooth once again!! when i got home i took the nipples out of the cylinders, and washed them with hot water. YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE GUNK MELT AWAY LIKE MAGIC!!! how cool is that!! at first when i was buying that T73F i was a little bit skeptical. i didn't want to use something that was pretending to be something else. i don't use anything like that in my cooking, i only use stuff that is real and not pretending to be something it is not. and shooting is no exception. however this T7 is actually pretty great stuff!!! i highly recommend it when real black is unavailable. it smells pretty good too, kinda sweet and smokey like blackpowder but without the sulfur smell. but what can i say, i am a connoisseur of powders and propellants and i judge by smell and sound, not only performance. i like the smell and the deep boom so i think T73F is a winner!
so today was great. i got to shoot guns, make a rear sight for my handgun and test it out, shoot my guns with high powered loads, and i got to spend time with my dad. and guess what... He loved shooting these guns. i think i might need to take him on a few more trips shooting powerful guns so he will become hopelessly addicted to blackpowder like me. he LOVED shooting that LR companion, and could hit with it too! he seemed fascinated with the loading process and even loaded his own cylinder, i didn't need to load it for him! how cool is that! i think i will get a full sized .44 cap and ball next, that will be great fun to shoot!

the next logical step is to get my mother hooked as well, and my brother, and then a lady friend of mine. my brother does not show interest in shooting sports, however once he starts shooting cap n' ball i am sure he will at least enjoy it. my mom likes to shoot .22s when offered to do so, she enjoys shooting and i think these guns will be a good tool for getting her hopelessly addicted to black powder shooting like me. and last but not least i will need to take the girl shooting and show her how much fun shooting blackpowder is. she is good with a .22 (like my mother as well) and can shoot really tiny groups as well! that's part of the reason why i want to share the wonders of BP with her, she enjoys it and i am sure she will like to learn blackpowder shooting and how fun it is! i might take her sometime around her birthday next month! that would be very fun!!

~Levi
 
Pics? Videos? Need 'em or it never happened!

Seriously, sounds like great fun. Thanks for the range report! And yes, you need a .44. I have three of 'em--a Walker and two 2nd Model Dragoons. They are great fun ... but not for concealed carry! Once I've practiced up, I hope to do some whitetail hunting with them.
 
i will get a few pictures of the handguns soon, i will be recording the video of the experience next time i go! my camera is broken so i am currently looking for a new one. i might be able to borrow my mom's camera for my next shooting trip!
 
does anybody have the ballistic for these guns with T73f? i don't have a chronograph but i am dying to know how fast those pills are flying. they seem to be getting some great FPS, they penetrate really well! the bullets flatten out pretty nicely too! i recovered some of them and found that they are engaging the rifling really well.
 
Sounds fun!

Don't forget your hearing protection next time. I wish I had been more careful when I was younger. Now I have permanent crickets in my ears. I like to use the ear plugs that are connected with an orange band to make it easy to take them off and on with one hand.
 
Sounds like you had a good time. I'm actually planning my first shooting trip in months this Sunday. Will be testing out my buddy's Rem 700 in .308.

As far as the velocities, I highly doubt you're getting 1200 fps. Probably close to 800 from Mag and around 600 from LR. So your magnum load is about as powerful as a cartridge LR mini. If you want to get 800 fps from LR Companion, you'll have to go to 1gr of Bullseye. I've shot this load out of Freedom Arms mini and it's actually recommended in FA manual. 1 can of Bullseye goes a really long way in these revolvers, probably enough to last a lifetime.

Have fun, my friend
 
Sounds like you had a good time. I'm actually planning my first shooting trip in months this Sunday. Will be testing out my buddy's Rem 700 in .308.

As far as the velocities, I highly doubt you're getting 1200 fps. Probably close to 800 from Mag and around 600 from LR. So your magnum load is about as powerful as a cartridge LR mini. If you want to get 800 fps from LR Companion, you'll have to go to 1gr of Bullseye. I've shot this load out of Freedom Arms mini and it's actually recommended in FA manual. 1 can of Bullseye goes a really long way in these revolvers, probably enough to last a lifetime.

Have fun, my friend
 
I stick with BP or subs in mine. T7 is really an amazing propellant, and I don't need to use smokeless in a BP revolver to get outstanding performance.Plus, it cleans up really easy.
 
i agree with you 100% on the whole T7 thing. it's what brings these little guns to life. i love how you can just take the cylinder out after a long day of shooting, remove the nipples and throw them in some warm water, and then chunk the cylinder in your sink to wash it. and how you can just pour water into the barrel to clean it!! i love how easy it is! i also love how T73F residue melts away with that hot water like magic! the stainless steel and the water solubility of T7 residue makes for a cleanup that is so easy a caveman could to it. i found that an old toothbrush is really good for cleaning the rear of the cylinder in the middle of the nipples where the cylinder hand makes it all move.
i feel that Triple Seven is the best powder for these pistols. used real BP but they didn't feel like guns to me. they need the extra power that Triple Se7en can give.
 
Bingo.I like being able to clean my little gun with nothing but an old tooth brush, and a Q-tip, but still get really good power, without the worry and stress of smokeless. I've got plenty of guns that fire smokeless if I want to do that ... I take them hunting. these are my fun guns.
 
i don't really feel like i need smokeless powder. however if i really want to try for some power i will try smokeless, but only a charge of 1.5 grains. if I'm just taking my dad shooting i want to have that good smelling powder smoke to lure him into BP shooting. he said he enjoyed the good smelling powder smoke, and that's a sign he could become a BP addict like me. it only took one whiff of blackpowder smoke at a reenactment when i was a lad and now look at me, hopelessly addicted to blackpowder shooting! besides that it's fun, messy, you come home smelling like Davey Crockett, no FFL, no waiting period, guns can be mail ordered, and you get to do all your reloading at the range, what's not to like? i know my guns are reliable. i have fired many shots from my companions and never did i get a misfire with the correct caps. they are much more reliable than the rimfire minis. and plus i can load them with percussion caps and greased airgun pellets for indoor target practice when i can't go to the range. the power is similar to a BB gun so that is perfect! it's like having a BB gun and a firearm in one pocket sized package. i ordered 200 30 grain pills yesterday, i will be taking my father shooting again this weekend. and 200 should keep us shooing all day! with 100 rounds we hardly made a dent in my powder flask, and my percussion cap supply is just fine. i will try and get a working camera out there with us so i can post pictures and videos for you guys as well as some close up shots of my homemade rear sight on my Super companion. if they don't come in time i will swing by Wallmart or some place like that and pick up some bulk .22 ammo and then pull the bullets and snip off the heels so i can shoot them out of my mini revolvers. should be about 30 grains without the heel. i will have a little smokeless from the cartridges so i might try that in my LR cap n' ball mini.
 
Busyhands94.
Yes, T7 cleans up well with just water. However do remember to remove the nipples occasionally and clean both the nipple threads and the threads in the cylinder. Be sure to use a quality anti-sieze compound when re-installing these. This will insure that the nipples will not "carbon-sieze" into the cylinder. Folks new to black powder/cap & ball revolvers often neglect this simple maintenence procedure and end up having to have the nipples drilled out and cylinders re-threaded. Great fun, these guns, even more fun when they continue to work year after year. Keep up the enthusiasm. Us old timers are happy to see it.
 
Curator,
i actually remove the nipples after every shooting session. and i have a shooting sesh several times a day. so here is what my cleaning session looks like:

after shooting (about five cylinders of ammo) i remove the nipples from the cylinder. i place them in a hot cup of soapy water, and then scrub the cylinder on the front and back with an old toothbrush. i then use Q tips to clean the insides, and i apply a little oil on the threads of the cylinder. i scrub each nipple and run a pin through it to remove any crud from the flash hole. i then dry out the cylinder and all it's nooks and crannies. i dry the nipples on a towel and then apply a little oil to the threads. i re install them into the cylinder with the nipple wrench. i run some scalding hot water through the bore and scrub that really well, scrub the throat of the barrel with an old toothbrush, and then i scrub the crud off the inside of the frame and top strap (taking care to keep water out of the action) and then i move onto the floating firing pin. i use a slightly damp and warm towel to wipe the stuff off the blunt face of the firing pin and the surrounding metal, wipe it with a dry cloth, and then i apply a drop of Hoppes #9 oil to protect it. i then completely dry the gun and put it back in it's case.
i do this several times a day, but keep in mind this does not take me too long to do, only a couple minutes. it takes a long time to type this though! every once and a while i will remove the nipples and put the cylinder in the dishwasher because it's stainless steel. it gets that thing immaculate!

BPH Fan,
I'm going to have to try round balls in my Super companion, i bet i might be able to fit an extra grain or two in there! you could buy "F" size shot, those are .22 caliber in diameter if i remember correctly. it would definitely be really cheap, cheaper than Gamo lead BBs in .22 caliber. if you look at a reloading shop they might have them, it would be pretty economical. don't know if you are interested but today i found out how to load the Super Companion with snake shot. for some reason i have a strange fascination with shot loads in small caliber pistols, i don't know why i like it, it's just so fun to mess around with. there isn't a practical use for this other than close range snake hunting or maybe shooting fast moving mice in the shop, however it's fun to shoot shot out of the Magnum cap and ball because they have some good FPS and will do a fair amount of damage for what they are. i use 2 grains of T73F, a small ball of newspaper over that, a 1 CC scoop of fine bird shot (lead) and then a little bit more newspaper as an overshot wad. i like to put a little Crisco on top to keep the fouling to a minimum. Enjoy!

~Levi
 
I'll have to try that. My only experience with .22 bird shot was pretty dismal. I normally don't shoot things I'm not going to eat, but I wanted to try out my High Standard double derringer [back when I was about your age] and shot an alligator lizard with CCI .22 Magnum bird shot. Only wounded the poor critter on the first shot, so I got really close, and shot him again ... still only wounded it! So, I ended up useing my Navy / Airforce pilot's survival knife to behead the creature. Not my most humane kill...
 
snake shot work well with small rattlesnakes and big bugs, but i wouldn't use it on an alligator lizard. keep in mind most reptiles will keep on squirming even if you cut off their head. i found that with the Super Companion #7 1/2 birdshot work well and will go through a pop can with no problems. the pattern is pretty big though, about 6 inches at 8 feet. however with 5 shots they are concentrated enough they could definitely kill rattlesnakes. i might try putting a lead BB on top of the shot as a buck and ball load, so even if the ball misses the shot will do some damage. and if i miss with the ball on the first shot i still have four more of em' to back that shot up. and within snake shot distances i can't miss with a single projectile. i am dying to try out those Gamo lead balls, i might have to order a pack of them! i could fit more powder in there too, so i might get 900 or maybe even 1000 FPS on a hot load. i doubt you could overload these pistols too, they don't hold too much powder, at most you could probably fit 6 grains of powder, but you won't blow up the gun even with that unless you are using larger amounts of smokeless. it'll be fine. however i plan to stick with Triple Se7en pistol. it's pretty darn efficient in the short barrels and i have a good supply of it stocked up too. and a two ounce likker' flask all the way full will last me a day at the range given they don't need more than a few grains to shoot.
 
i twisted up 15 paper cartridges for my handgun, they work really well. the load is 4.5 grains of T73F and a .22 caliber bullet. i cut an X on the front of the bullets. i tested them out today on a pop can of water. the regular bullets make a decent hole in the can, but these will blow the can up. here's what happened.

I was in my shop testing them out. i had the revolver loaded with two rounds. the regular bullet was to be shot first and then the "X" bullet. i had two root beer cans filled with water. i had a box filled with densely packed newspaper with a pellet trap behind (just in case) as my backstop. i placed a piece of 2X4 on a cookie sheet to catch any water but it wasn't enough. i stuck the first can onto the board in front of my backstop. i cocked the hammer and shot the can. it left a nice hole in there that i could fit two fingers into and it tore a good slit into the can. the exit hole was a normal .22 sized hole. for my next round i had that X bullet, i poured the water out of the tray and set up the can to shoot. i aimed and pulled the trigger and >BOOM< the next thing i know i was all covered with water. it was all over the shop, all over me, my safety glasses, and my gun. the hole is about 2 1/2 inches wide and from the top to the bottom of the can. the exit hole was square and i am guessing the bullet expanded into four points. it is about 1/2 an inch wide. the can is pretty puffed up too! this is an interesting bullet mod and i really find it amazing how a slight modification can improve the hydrolic shock of the bullet. i will take some of these out to the range and test them on milk jugs as well as the regular bullets NAA sells and i will keep you guys updated!
 
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