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Narrow Minded.

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I really don't think "narrow minded" is the right word here. You're not narrow minded, but rather haver a very narrow focus.
That whole "Only accurate guns are interesting" is incredibly misleading. A gimmicky gun from 1823 that killed some random duke and kicked off a minor war is "interesting." And anyone saying it's not, because it doesn't shoot .0005 MOA is not aware of what "interesting" actually means.

Will I tell you that you should go out and buy an inaccurate, unreliable and generally no good gun? No, I won't, why would I? But will I ask you to reconsider your use of the term "interesting" when what you mean is "good for me?" Yes I will. This has nothing to do with narrow mindedness. It has everything to do with a very simplistic view of a very broad subject, that only distinguishes between black and white.
"Interesting" isn't an on/off switch. It's a very wide range and whether one deprives themselves of this range willingly or because they can't experience it doesn't matter. What matters is the response to this. I for one don't call everything that I can't directly relate to "uninteresting." I would be interested in a flintlock used by Napoleon that sits under a glass cover. I would also be interested in one of those rifles that come mounted on a sled, that's really more of an artillery piece. But neither particularly tickle my fancy. Doesn't make the "uninteresting" though.

Ya dig?
 
I see it as a perfectly reasonable thing. A gun is supposed to go bang every time. If it fails to go bang once every few magazines, then it is not meeting it purpose.
 
Different points of view. I'd say with gun guys there are two extremes. There is the collector that cares about just owning something nice. He may not even shoot, its the owning that matters. At the other end is its just a tool for putting bullets into something, nothing more, nothing less. Most people are somewhere in between.
 
I've got "safe queens" for my 401-G retirement, never shot them, it would be foolish to do so, so reliability / accuracy are moot. I do like high condition pre-1930 Winchester levers, Wonderful craftsmanship, I like to hold and admire them.

I also have shooters which get shot to death, I'll tinker endlessly with those, if they don't function I play gunsmith until I understand every aspect of what makes them tick, just part of the fun for me. That's the neat thing about firearms - there's something for everyone, so don't feel guilty if reliability is your main thing - just have some fun with it.
 
Why is everything in my collection based off of Proven reliability?

Because you are smart enough to understand that any firearm is a tool and there is no reason in the world to have a tool that will not work as designed.
 
Well reliability is usually (thats the best way I can think to describe it) gauged by use or lack there of.
The firearm(s) I carry daily have proven reliable and I swear my life by them.
The rifles I collect, mil-surp mostly, are all reliable without a fault, but I still stash parts away (high use/high wear) just on the off chance that one of them might have a part break during its use.
That said, I'm either a glutton for punishment or an invertibrate tinkerer, but I do take the ones that have a problem or two and like to get them working so I can say I fixed them...................but then again I am stubborn
 
I have a small collection that I bought because they were cool and I enjoy shooting them. Being old military junkers, I am surprised how the price I paid has gone up 3-4 times over the last few years. If I ever have a reliability problem, I just fix it. It sure helped that I attended one of the best gunsmith schools in the country......chris3
 
I wouldn't have any gun that didn't work every time I shot it. Guns are made to shoot if they dont they are just clubs. End of story. Frank
 
Sounds like you have discriminating tastes to me...nothing wrong with wanting anything you buy to work properly.
 
I do not purchase firearms, to pkace under glass domes like watcheds of olde. I've been around long enough to know that Glocks go KABOOM, and I don't like that! I thought I had a real bang-up Pennsylvania rifle for life, till that sixth round was loaded, and the darn thing acted like that ol' cannon, on the replay TV channel of "F Troop" (fizzzzzzzzzz out the TOUCHHOLE!). I know 1911'S WORK. I know .38 special snubbies WORK. I know Browning Hi Powers still WORK. I have read way too much, maybe for my own good, about mouseguns 'working and not'. I do not 'collect' firearms. Yes, I could be 'a bit of a snob' on this, but we all are, in some facet, records -er-LP's, certain movies and collectibles, etc. I bought just those certain firearms, that I know, on the street in CC fashion, or at oh-dark-thirty, at my door. The designs have been proven through the years, in quite more rigorous a wringing-out, than little old me would do, and they still work, like a Timex watch!
 
I agree that we all have our preferred types to spend our money on, so yes we can all be "snobs" to a certain extent, but I can say I bought one or two guns knowing they had issues, then I went to the trouble of fixing the issues and havent had an issue since. As for Glocks goin BOOM, yup I've seen pictures and read articles about it, but my departments had them for better than 20 years and the only failure we've had was a broken extractor during qualification.
I also know that the care taken to keep a machine running (preventative and routine ) can lead to it being reliable or not, but then there are the steps taken during the maufacturing process that can lead to reliability issues. Personally I'd rather get a firearm thats just been rode-hard-and-put-up-wet that needs some TLC to get back to being reliable than a straight up lemon, sometimes the challenge makes the end result alot sweeter, just MHO.
 
"Should I stray from my beliefs or stay the course?"

Sell all your guns and use the money to invest in collecting only M1 carbines.
For dinner, have a pot roast, rice and potatotes.
Be in bed by 9 pm.

See where i'm going? Why would you let strangers dictate your hobbies? Or anything for that matter. Nobody on here can tell you which guns are the best for you to collect but you.
 
[...] and they still work, like a Timex watch!

That is incredibly ironic. Because my Timex watch stopped working three hours into my field phase of Officer Training. As a matter of fact, NONE of the Timexs I have bought over the years have ever worked for longer than a week or so!

So yeah. Irony, ftw.
 
I wouldn't have kept the 1911. I would have returned it to the manufacturer after the first return didn't fix it and asked for my money.

I would have done just that. In fact I did recently. Exchanged it for another model.

But then I wouldn't buy a 1911 and fully expect it to be that reliable
 
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