National Do Not Call Registry

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actually, most of the phone calls are solicitations. They largely occur over state lines. Sounds like interstate commerce to me. charities, campaign calls, and surveys are not commerce, and aren't being regulated by this, and they aren't commerce.

So no, unless I'm missing something, it seems reasonably appropriate to run it at the federal level.
 
I called this morning and it could not have been easier. There was enough informaiton given out that explained it all and it was not long. The whole process took less than five minutes.

I like the idea of a national no-call list. It seems as if it would make it easier for those blasted telemarketers, whom I dislike to no end, to determine those they can call. I don't like that their association is involved in maintaining the list and that it is only undated every three months. I can see that those that do not sign up will be over come by solicatation calls.
 
I signed up when notified by the state of Indiana a couple months ago. I think the state has their own program. Yesterday, sunday, when I expect to be left alone, an AT&T rep. banged on my front door. I ignored first bang and second one followed 1 minute later. It almost turned into physical confrontation as this punk wouldn't take no for an answer, and I stepped out on porch. I finally told him to **** and he left. Spent the rest of afternoon designing sign which I printed and hung on door. Gonna change wording from no "solicitation" to no "Peddlers" today.
 
I think the list is a good idea. I loathe telemarketers as I despise few other things in the world. Since much telemarketing is across state lines I see nothing wrong with the federal government enforcing this law. And in any case, I don't see it as a vast expansion of power anyway.
 
basically low grade terrorists IMHO.
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Slightly irritating, yes. Low grade terrorists? Gimme a break. You know things aren't that bad when you have nothing better to complain about than annoying phone calls.

Don't see how someone can like the idea of a national no-call list (with any sort of teeth) and not like it enforced on a federal level.

Personally, I don't like fed.gov exercising this control. Surprise, surprise.

Popeye,
Must be AT&T door-to-door day. Had a rep and his buddy walk into our office today (ignoring the "No Soliciting" sign, mind you) to try to get our office to switch local service. I have no control over things like that, so I told him we were involved in a long-term contract.
When he asked for how long, I nearly told him "Until the stars fall from the sky. Until the mountains crumble into the sea." or simply "One hundred and fifty years. But we're getting a great rate!"
 
I'm on Texas No call and now the national no call.

Ahhh the silence is golden...


Now if we can just get rid of the spam, popups, spyware and overall hijacking of our PC's


My front door has a sign:

In 1 inch block letters

No solictiting, no surveys, no donations.
Do not knock on this door unless you have an appointment.
Do not leave advertising materials
 
I'm not signing up:

  • Doesn't block pitch calls from the political parties.
  • Doesn't block pitch calls from "charities."
  • You get your ID on another list.

My home phone goes out only to those who really need it, and I have caller ID (plus a feature that blocks calls from anyone who doesn't send caller ID.) Works great.

- pdmoderator
 
A minor digression...

jsalcedo:

Now if we can just get rid of the spam, popups, spyware and overall hijacking of our PC's
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I assume you're using Windows.

There are some tools out there that mitigate these things a bit. As far as popups go, you may want to try using Mozilla (an integrated web browser, mailer, composer, etc.) http://www.mozilla.org/ or Mozilla Firebird (a stand-alone web browser) http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/ . Both feature Javascript pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing -- oh, how I love tabbed browsing -- and they're very stable to boot. They also provide for powerful and fine-grained control of cookies, allowing you to specify which sites can or cannot set cookies, to limit cookie lifetime, etc. They'll co-exist with IE just fine, though I recommend leaving IE as your Windows default browser, since lots of Windows stuff will probably break in subtle ways if you change that. Oh, and they're free, you have to love that. :D

On to spam: lately, many folks have implemented a new spam-blocking technique called "Bayesian filtering" or "Bayesian classification". It's really simple: you tell the classifier what's spam and what's not-spam (or "ham"), and it learns what they look like. Once it builds up enough confidence after being trained for a while, it starts classifying messages as spam or ham, and it's uncannily accurate. Mozilla Mail has this built-in; there are several other stand-alone solutions for Windows. Google for "bayesian spam filter windows" and see what's out there. Some folks swear by POPFile http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ , though I haven't tried it. It's free too; ahhhh.

As for spyware, Ad-aware's http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware/ mission in life is to find and stamp out spyware. They have a free version available for download. When I sit down in front of an unfamiliar Windows box that's acting sluggish (well, more than they usually do), I often run Ad-aware on it, and the users are usually surprised by all of the stuff that it finds. There's usually at least one spyware app running (Gator: I see you!).

HTH,

PH
 
The libertarian side of my brain say "Federales have no busines. . . "

The mature side of my head says "There are a blue gazillion trade associations who members engage in telemarketing. These associations know the situation is out of hand yet they did nothing among the membership to control it. Therefore, since they were unwilling to exercise responsibility for their actions, too bad."

Government will always fill a void. In this case the void is a lack of organizational responsibility.
 
Thank you for providing the link.

When I did the verification step it said I had registetred TODAY.... not a couple months agao when I did it with California....

Sooooooooooooooooo those who did this same thing with California might want to re-register on the national one.


It requires only that you put in your e-mail address and phone numbers.


You then have to click a link to verify you really DO want to be off the lists.

We will see what happens in October when this thing goes live.

Charles
 
I think waiting may be a good course of action. The law doesn't go into effect until Oct so until then telemarketers can still bug you. If they see your name on the list I can see them trying to get in as many calls as possible to you while they still can. My guess is that those who sign up early will see their telemarketer calls go up 10 fold in the near future. I'm thinking that the best time to sign on is a day or two before, or a day or two after, the law takes effect.
 
I think waiting may be a good course of action. The law doesn't go into effect until Oct so until then telemarketers can still bug you. If they see your name on the list I can see them trying to get in as many calls as possible to you while they still can. My guess is that those who sign up early will see their telemarketer calls go up 10 fold in the near future. I'm thinking that the best time to sign on is a day or two before, or a day or two after, the law takes effect.
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Problem is there's always a three month delay (well, the companies only have to update their do not call lists every 3 months) so technically, no matter when you sign up you won't see a reduction in calls until about 3 months later.
 
My go to gun for home defense is a revolver,,, a Smith and Wesson Model 19 .357 magnum to be more specific. It's my go to gun because it's simple, accurate, reliable and has a good track record of stopping potential.......

I don't rely on calling 911 or putting my fate entirly in someone else's hands since the criminal element either ignores the laws or finds a way to get around them.

- - seems like there's a direct correlation here....

My wife picked up a real nice cordless phone/answering machine combination for ~ $40.00. We still get the telemarketers, but we simply screen the calls.

National and state lists may be effective in the short run. I doubt if they're any long term solution though. After the law goes into effect, they'll just move the operation out of the USA and out of the reach of the law.

Think it won't happen? Just do a quick search for a recent thread that was locked as off topic about customer support being outsourced to India. With voice over IP bcoming more and more commonplace, traditional overseas phone charges don't apply anymore. Here's the link to the locked down thread:

www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?threadid=28710


Bottom line here is that a list, either state or federal, is nothing more than a feel good measure.
 
I signed up Friday.

I was home one day last week.

I counted 17, that's right SEVENTEEN telemarketer calls!
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Best thing to do is answer the phone and be rude about it. Ask for the name of the company and the rep's name. Tell them that you do NOT want anything and to take you off the call list. Keep a notepad next to the phone and note that you did this. If they call again, notify the FCC (I think) and give them the details. They will be fined for every infraction and it isn't cheap for them.

GT
 
That's why I have caller ID and the answering machine, Tarpley. I turn the phone down, and when it rings I look at the call box. If I recognize it, I pick it up. If I don't, the machine picks up.

Friends of mine have the telezapper, which is advertised on TV. They say it's really helping reduce the number of marketer calls they get.
 
I know telemarketers are annoying and I don't blame anybody for signing up if it is available but in light of Q's comment about the constitution in his sig. line, I can't see where this is anything that the Fed. govt. ought to be involved in. Of course, I realize any limits on what the fed can do were gone long ago.
 
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Mike Irwin said: Friends of mine have the telezapper, which is advertised on TV. They say it's really helping reduce the number of marketer calls they get.
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See my previous comment - that's what the Telezapper does: enables you to pay $50-20 to get a "box" that plays the "doo...dah...dee," tones that you can get for free and record onto your own answering machine.

Dex
 
If I have to say "hello" a second time then it's a sales call, and I hang up the phone.

I do know someone who keeps a whistle hanging next to the phone just for telemarketers. She's mellowed out in her old age - it used to be an airhorn.
 
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