Henry Bowman
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NC: Anti-Open Carry proposal in Charlotte
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Johnny_Yuma
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Does anybody have
any idea how this proposal went over? I sent my e-mails to the council as requested but I haven't read any follow-up on the issue and I have not found anything through my own research. Any info is appreciated.
any idea how this proposal went over? I sent my e-mails to the council as requested but I haven't read any follow-up on the issue and I have not found anything through my own research. Any info is appreciated.
I found this followup story...temporary reprieve?
story link
Posted on Tue, Oct. 11, 2005
Proposed limit on handguns draws fire
Idea to ban openly carried firearms sent back to committee
RICHARD RUBIN
Staff Writer
The Charlotte City Council has stalled a proposed ban on openly carrying handguns.
City staffers, who suggested the idea, will study it for several more weeks and respond to the complaints aired by council members on Monday.
Police Chief Darrel Stephens wanted the council to send the issue to the community safety committee. But gun-rights advocates in the audience Monday evening and sharp questions from council members showed he had stepped into controversial territory.
"It's an issue that I know generates all kinds of debate and discussion, emotion when you begin talking about what's the best way to deal with firearms in our community," he said.
Stephens said four recent gun sightings in uptown prompted police to propose the ordinance. It would not affect residents who have permits to carry concealed weapons.
Democrat Warren Turner worried that discussing the ordinance would let residents know that they are allowed to display guns openly.
"Now, if we don't do something, are we going to be looking at Dodge City?" he asked, wondering why police would open what he called a can of worms.
"Sometimes," Stephens replied, "I feel it's my obligation to open the can."
Chapel Hill has a similar ordinance, adopted in 1993 after a handgun was used in a homicide. Charlotte officials have no written proposal or many details about what the ordinance would include.
City Manager Pam Syfert said the staff will study it for three or four weeks, then bring it back to the full council. That likely pushes any decision past the Nov. 8 election.
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Comments:
1. Democrat coucilman worries that discussing the issue could let stupid citizens know they're actually allowed to open carry. ("SHHH, keep open carry laws SECRET, chief!")
2. The story doesn't tell if the gun-rights got to testify before the council, or what they said. [Any first-hand reports from Charlotte members?]
3. I'm waiting to hear of the many pro-gun Charlotte police who mobilized to testify against this brainfart by their chief...everyone repeat after me: "Don't blame the cops; they don't make the law, they only enforce it ."
story link
Posted on Tue, Oct. 11, 2005
Proposed limit on handguns draws fire
Idea to ban openly carried firearms sent back to committee
RICHARD RUBIN
Staff Writer
The Charlotte City Council has stalled a proposed ban on openly carrying handguns.
City staffers, who suggested the idea, will study it for several more weeks and respond to the complaints aired by council members on Monday.
Police Chief Darrel Stephens wanted the council to send the issue to the community safety committee. But gun-rights advocates in the audience Monday evening and sharp questions from council members showed he had stepped into controversial territory.
"It's an issue that I know generates all kinds of debate and discussion, emotion when you begin talking about what's the best way to deal with firearms in our community," he said.
Stephens said four recent gun sightings in uptown prompted police to propose the ordinance. It would not affect residents who have permits to carry concealed weapons.
Democrat Warren Turner worried that discussing the ordinance would let residents know that they are allowed to display guns openly.
"Now, if we don't do something, are we going to be looking at Dodge City?" he asked, wondering why police would open what he called a can of worms.
"Sometimes," Stephens replied, "I feel it's my obligation to open the can."
Chapel Hill has a similar ordinance, adopted in 1993 after a handgun was used in a homicide. Charlotte officials have no written proposal or many details about what the ordinance would include.
City Manager Pam Syfert said the staff will study it for three or four weeks, then bring it back to the full council. That likely pushes any decision past the Nov. 8 election.
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Comments:
1. Democrat coucilman worries that discussing the issue could let stupid citizens know they're actually allowed to open carry. ("SHHH, keep open carry laws SECRET, chief!")
2. The story doesn't tell if the gun-rights got to testify before the council, or what they said. [Any first-hand reports from Charlotte members?]
3. I'm waiting to hear of the many pro-gun Charlotte police who mobilized to testify against this brainfart by their chief...everyone repeat after me: "Don't blame the cops; they don't make the law, they only enforce it ."
Waitone
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And that is precisely how Charlotte deals with issues in the city. It an old southern tradition. Polite people just don't talk about unpleasant things like illegal immigrants bankrupting social services, a crime wave featuring gang wars, drugs out the yingyang, and a judicial system grossly under-resourced for a city of its size. Nooo, you just ignore it. You get the Charlotte Observer (as leftist a rag as you'll find anywhere in the US) to ignore it. Don't tell the great Fed Up there is a problem. Meanwhile tax in Charlotte are eighth highest in the US and going higher. Don't talk about a perceived problem of open carry because by doing so you've alerted people to their "right to do so". Never mind the number of homicides in the city look like a bottle rocket.
First, Stevens of police fame is a made blissninny who reports directly to Pam Syfert. Stevens is a part of the gang driving the city into the toilet. The fact that it was sent to committee to study until after the election is not surprising.
The city's blissninny mafia had determined it to be impolite and unseemly for a "World class city" with and "enviable center city" should have open carry of firearms. Because it looks unpleasant, open carry will be banned. Count on it.
RoyG
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Online poll at the Charlotte Observer
Online poll at the Charlotte Observer:
"POLL | Should police discourage guns in public?"
http://forums.charlotte.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-cltissues&msg=1984.1&ctx=0
Online poll at the Charlotte Observer:
"POLL | Should police discourage guns in public?"
http://forums.charlotte.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-cltissues&msg=1984.1&ctx=0
DeseoUnTaco
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Open carry is the next step. CCW reform is the best policy to happen to the gun rights movement in decades because it normalizes the idea of carrying a gun, and it gets a big chunk of people used to having CCW permits who won't give them up. Open carry is the logical follow-up. We need more open carry.
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